Interesting coincidence Phil, I finally watched the HBO documentary on LRH,
Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief last night. What a bizarre twisted tale and if anyone in the supposed free zone hasn't seen it they should.
The thing that I see is this: LRH was an extremely disturbed yet brilliant man, his defenders, blinded by the OT levels, the mythology he created, and their own arrogance that they are here to "save the planet" are both inside and outside the church structure. If they were able to move through their own programming they would see that indeed they are subjects of the very same deceptive mind control they fight as outside themselves. They like to claim that LRH was attacked heavily by Xenu and
outsiders that wanted to destroy him, as an excuse for his "excesses". Easily forgetting his aberrations, the abuse of the women in his life, his disdain for the body, his egomania and demagoguery. For some reason they excuse it all?
I will state again what I have in the past, I found value in auditing, ironically it was fundamental for me to unravel my own encounter with the Mandato and mind control (the Mandato used the same, though more subtle tactics that LRH used). There was a clip where Ronnie-boy was frothing on about how important scientlology was and how one had to dive into life to rub shoulders with all men to know life. He states that he visited what he called "primitive" people all over the world ... um? Actually gave me pause because I have noted for quite some time now that "auditing" as coined by LRH is a practice used by indigenous people in many parts of the world. As I just said yesterday on the Corey thread, I stand by the knowable fact that
active listening without judgement is key to helping another unravel his/ her own story and experiences. However for that to occur one has to not only feel safe but be safe AND be dealing with an ethical person, quite obviously Ron's use of the term ethics had one meaning for those under his orders and another for himself and the elite of the church.
In my experience outside the church, (and for the record again I never was a scientologist, had an aversion to the whole philosophy and actively challenged BR, jiminii and others on their BELIEF SYSTEM), I saw the same dynamics operating, the demagoguery and elitist secretive stance that only those who have gone up the bridge are able to combat the enemy, and indeed only they know reality. Seeing the uselessness of fighting that belief, for built in to it is the forged idea that anyone who challenges El-Ron or the Tech is in Xenu's camp and seen as an enemy. My only real choice was to leave the scene, claim myself as sovereign and gratefully take what I learned.
And the question you ask Phil, there were no scientologists as mods then. There are others on the forum, I am pretty sure they have written about their affiliation with LRH's philosophy.
I could say much more, perhaps I shall.
Phil wrote:Ah, thanks.
If I understand you correctly: where the others who were not scientologists didn't
There was more than one scientologist mod at that time? Herve wasn't a mod back then, if I remember correctly...I thought he was the only one that was into it?
)...it goes on for pages and pages showing a reasonable, moderate belief in the "purest forms" of LRon's tech and writing.
