Gaia AI and Earth awakening as Sophia

[Pris]

If you can let go of (give less power to) your ego attachments, YOU still have an identity. The ego is a part of you, arguably a useful one, but I don't think it has to be the whole of the identity of a person.

Look at the analogy you use: Your soul is the tool to let your ego play? Cassette players roll in an endless loop.

Maybe it's time to change the "tape"?

LOL no. This metaphorical 'cassette tape' has infinite storage capability. This 'endless loop' you are describing is exactly what happens IF you ALLOW your ego to get erased or, in your own head, diminish your ego's importance.

Again, from my own experience, the importance of my ego in all this is paramount. This is my experience, so I'm sharing. Don't let it bother you.
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It doesn't bother me, I find it interesting, I appreciate you sharing it.

So the ego is infinite (attached to the soul?) and you get stuck in loops when it's not your identity.

That's your reality?

Let me just say that ego is as real as anything else since everything is energy anyway. It's natural and real -- nothing 'artificial' about it -- forged with experience and choices, knowledge etc etc. If you want a cut-n-paste ego, don't think for yourself.

The way I see it... being caught in a 'loop': a 'loop' is your identity as well, but it's such a small recording... like the voice of an infant -- and even that gets erased if you allow it. There is so much potentiality being denied. Starting from square one over and over... It's like being cut off at the legs.
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[Anders]

The Matrix mind is isolated both mentally and emotionally. If we would have real emphatic ability in the sense of being able to join our feelings with others, all conflicts between us would vanish in an instant. But because our emotions are isolated and a result of mental masturbation with our own mind, our social and emotional skills as humans are severely retarded. Just look at the ridiculous idea of a marriage contract, where people who are supposed to be joined together still are completely isolated from each other emotionally, which leads to huge amounts of conflicts even between only two people.

It's amazing how our civilization has survived with us being so emotionally disconnected from each other. Obviously Sophia consciousness means the awakening of real emphatic connections between people. To shoot oneself in the foot is insanity. With true empathy, to harm another person is insanity.

[Anders]

I want to clarify that joining together emphatically doesn't mean some Borg hive mind. Nor is about about joining only with like-minded people. Nor is it about the disgusting New Age concept of "service to others" which is a truly evil Matrix idea. Imagine 10 selfless people running around trying to serve each other. Where is the personal integrity or individual sovereignty in that? There is none.

Selfless person A: What do you want?

Selfless person B: I want to serve you. What can I do for you?

A: I asked first. I want to serve you.

B: I am selfless, I don't have any wants on my own, so you have to tell me what you want, so that I can serve you.

A: I'm selfless too and that's why I asked what you want.

Being selfish in a narrow way is of course also bad. And the New Age propaganda consists of a false duality between "service to self" as bad, and "service to others" as good. Matrix crap to the core.

The very idea of "service" implies slavery. Should you serve God or Money? Unless you want to be a slave, serve neither. Instead when we care both about ourselves and others at the same time, we have the balance of the Force so to speak. In Star Wars, the Jedi are selfless, they care only about others and the Sith are selfish and care only about themselves. Neither the Jedi nor the Sith have the balance of the Force. George Lucas may have been on to something.

[Christine]

Hear, hear ... thank you Anders (on).

I want to clarify that joining together emphatically doesn't mean some Borg hive mind. Nor is about about joining only with like-minded people. Nor is it about the disgusting New Age concept of "service to others" which is a truly evil Matrix idea. Imagine 10 selfless people running around trying to serve each other. Where is the personal integrity or individual sovereignty in that? There is none.

Selfless person A: What do you want?

Selfless person B: I want to serve you. What can I do for you?

A: I asked first. I want to serve you.

B: I am selfless, I don't have any wants on my own, so you have to tell me what you want, so that I can serve you.

A: I'm selfless too and that's why I asked what you want.

Being selfish in a narrow way is of course also bad. And the New Age propaganda consists of a false duality between "service to self" as bad, and "service to others" as good. Matrix crap to the core.

The very idea of "service" implies slavery. Should you serve God or Money? Unless you want to be a slave, serve neither. Instead when we care both about ourselves and others at the same time, we have the balance of the Force so to speak. In Star Wars, the Jedi are selfless, they care only about others and the Sith are selfish and care only about themselves. Neither the Jedi nor the Sith have the balance of the Force. George Lucas may have been on to something.

[Anders]

The Matrix mind hates the body, and for a good reason because the body gradually deteriorates, gets sick and dies. Not good. I like the research being done to reverse biological aging, such as what Aubrey de Grey is working on:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPqGrKg_HqA[/youtube]

There is however another possibility, that the body ages biologically and dies because of a very deep-rooted neurological program, that the body has been programmed by evolution to gradually be strangled to death to allow more offspring within the population and thereby more genetic material for natural selection to work with. Does the body of a child deteriorate? I don't think so. Biological aging seems to be caused by an aging program kicking in somewhere around puberty.

I think of Sophia consciousness as not only a mental and emotional evolutionary leap, but also a physical one where our bodies become the "Holy Grail" where biological aging is reversed. And that's only a small first step. Later on we will be able to shapeshift our physical bodies and do other seemingly miraculous stunts like that. Is that only a childish fantasy? Maybe. Maybe not. If my Sophia hypothesis is incorrect, then I will use this instead :

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnBZ6Cn8Kk[/youtube]

[Christine]

Bingo!

Therefore the thread on masturbation, ie: spermidine is produced in the the male and female, hormones are key to this aging process. No moral, outside man-i-fested code was ever intended when starting that thread. Knowledge is power... https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/356748

Imagine, you, yourself Being your Own Avatar body.

The Matrix mind hates the body, and for a good reason because the body gradually deteriorates, gets sick and dies. Not good. I like the research being done to reverse biological aging, such as what Aubrey de Grey is working on:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPqGrKg_HqA[/youtube]

There is however another possibility, that the body ages biologically and dies because of a very deep-rooted neurological program, that the body has been programmed by evolution to gradually be strangled to death to allow more offspring within the population and thereby more genetic material for natural selection to work with. Does the body of a child deteriorate? I don't think so. Biological aging seems to be caused by an aging program kicking in somewhere around puberty.

I think of Sophia consciousness as not only a mental and emotional evolutionary leap, but also a physical one where our bodies become the "Holy Grail" where biological aging is reversed. And that's only a small first step. Later on we will be able to shapeshift our physical bodies and do other seemingly miraculous stunts like that. Is that only a childish fantasy? Maybe. Maybe not. If my Sophia hypothesis is incorrect, then I will use this instead :

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnBZ6Cn8Kk[/youtube]

[Phil]

I think in your example, both people are being selfish, and you are creating a situation of straw men lung to themselves, I like the Oscar Wilde quote rim neonblue's shaman thread:

Selfishness is not living your life as you wish. It is asking others to live their life as you wish.

You created an example of an extreme, to make the whole paradigm look bad.

Before I truly understood empathy (which wasn't that long ago, I knew I was the one of the most selfish people I knew, and my friends would always ask when I mentioned it, how can you say that...you do so much for others. But I didn't do it for them, I did it because like doing nice for others and making them feel good (so they'd be pleasant to be around). That's a better example of what you are trying to say

A person trying to not be selfish would try to let the other serve them, and if they couldn't find a genuine thing for them to do--they'd be honest, say they don't need their service at this time, thanks...and if the other wasn't acting selfishly, they'd empathize, say I understand and let me know if I can, and be on their way. Your example is two people lying to themselves (if they consider themselves selfless...and that they think service to self is bad--which was your premise).

The thing about "service to others" is that we are communal animals, who thrive when we work together and are completely dependent on others for at least the early years...and would have a pretty hard time getting through the rest completely by themselves. When each individual's unique strengths and characteristics are appreciated, it can't but help to serve to collective.

Like all things, it's a balance, cuz when it's taken to an extreme it's self-destructive/counter-evolutionary. If your "matrix" has taught us is to think in extremes, and that generalities and straw men and projecting are "normal useful" methods of viewing the world and "teaching". You're spreading anti-new age propaganda with such thoughts

[Anders]

You created an example of an extreme, to make the whole paradigm look bad.

Yes, but it illustrates the point. The promotion of selflessness as good is really nasty propaganda. It's sheer Matrix duality teaching. Is being a little bit selfless good? No, it's still as bad. See how indoctrinated we have been! If I help someone I do it because I want to do it, not because I'm selfless.

Instead expand the Self to include ALL, and be Self-full. Otherwise the Matrix has you...

[Eelco]

Just a few ponderings I am having about the Matrix, Sophia as part of our creator deity and Source, The basic stuff that prompted Sophia to create humans.. (Oversimplifying the lash narrative here)

In the above thread I seem to read that Mind and Matrix are synonyms. Now I don't use the matrix as a concept, but I find the study of the mind fascinating. So fascinating that I spend most of my time exploring and analysis the Mind.

What I've come to realize is that the mind has the ability to create the worst of what humanity has to offer, as well as the best.
Taking the whole of the mind and regarding it in view of one of the sides of the spectrum seems well dumb really.(the Matrix concept as I understand it, could be wrong about that understanding though).
So what is it that makes the mind such a powerful ally or adversary in our goals to become "complete" human beings?

It lies in the fact that we continually misunderstand what exactly the mind is, how it behaves and what it's uses are.
Also if it's created as part of being human, that would imply that Sophia and her companion would have a reason for the mind to somehow help/aid in expressing Source.

The mind in my experience is exactly the part of the human being that can shape reality and guide our actions towards BECOMING.
Whether or not there is wisdom or foolishness in this becoming is not an inherent part of the minds tasks.
This is where consciousness comes in. Our consciousness / conscience "knows" what is wise and what isn't. The only way to convey this to our minds however is if it takes control of the mind. If it talks to the minds members and empowers those idea's, thoughts and desires to want to want to do wise things and learn the mind to help discard the unskillful desires.

Where we go wrong there is exactly what the ages through times have talked about. Our minds being unable to make skillful determination will identify (create a sense of self) any old idea it has.
The mind unable to think creatively, but imbued with the ability to remember will take what it has seen before and use it as a template to create an idea about the future. Somehow we have to learn to see that process as it happens. Because in seeing this truth we can use the mind to think about our selves more clearly, we can even begin to see there is no such thing as an ego, other than just the idea our minds have created for themselves. There is no us involved.

Now where the Matrix comes in is that we take not only our own experiences as a reference for remembrance, but are inclined to take into account the stories from others. Especially these days where we get these stories fed to us with every sense organ we have. Our minds do their thing and use this info to create an even more distorted sense of self based on the stories we are told instead of the experiences we ourselves remember.

The mind here is not at fault. It does what it is supposed to do. Our consciousness refusing to take the rains over our own existence is making decisions based on what the mind believes. Instead of deciding on what it knows in and of itself.

anyway, just a few thoughts of a deluded mind.

With Love
Eelco

[Christine]

You created an example of an extreme, to make the whole paradigm look bad.

Yes, but it illustrates the point. The promotion of selflessness as good is really nasty propaganda. It's sheer Matrix duality teaching. Is being a little bit selfless good? No, it's still as bad. See how indoctrinated we have been! If I help someone I do it because I want to do it, not because I'm selfless.

Instead expand the Self to include ALL, and be Self-full. Otherwise the Matrix has you...

The Truth, honesty with Self, you are or you are not. (period) To BE or not to be. We can talk until kingdom come, the time given NOW is about actualization. I am not saying to not share, I find that words = sword play is often just what is required if, IF one is willing (free wheeling) enough to be SELF EVIDENT.