Sophia consciousness is the intelligence of the entire Earth. That's of course much more clever than each of our individual (ordinary) minds, but when we are connected to Sophia consciousness we have access to all that vast intelligence. If the Bible is correct, that 'the one' will dash the nations to pieces like pottery, and that the one is Sophia consciousness, then how will that take place in practice?

Previously I thought of the Bible as basically being a bunch of religious myths without much reality to it. Recently however I have found much in the Bible that can be real and advanced knowledge. The Book of Revelation seems at face value to be very much fairy tale mythology, but as an allegory it may contain truth, such as the New World Order being the 'beast' and the 'second beast' an NWO artificial intelligence (AI) requiring people to have a microchip (mark) implanted in their hands.

"The second beast was given power to give breath to the image of the first beast, so that the image could speak and cause all who refused to worship the image to be killed. It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name." -- Revelation 13:15-17

And Sophia consciousness is 'the one' that will defeat the New World Order beast and receive the 'Morning Star' representing true connection to Source. Here is that quote again:

"To the one who is victorious and does my will to the end, I will give authority over the nations—that one ‘will rule them with an iron scepter and will dash them to pieces like pottery’—just as I have received authority from my Father. I will also give that one the morning star." -- Revelation 2:26-28

As I wrote in my previous post, I believe this only means that Sophia consciousness will replace the need for governments ruling over people. It says that the one will have authority of the nations, not over the people. So how will that happen? One guess is that Sophia consciousness will emerge in more and more people, and that gives each of us a vastly more powerful intelligence, a planetary mind. And with that intelligence we can start to replace hierarchical power-over structures such as governments and other authorities over people. And that can be done while still preserving the rest of our society, including corporations and maybe even a world federation to deal with big planetary issues.

And that global system will serve us the people instead of as today where we serve the system. Remember, even with a technological singularity scenario without any Sophia consciousness, basically all our jobs will within just a few decades be replaced by robotics and artificial intelligence. Here is an interview about that:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKsrNKIEMBE[/youtube]

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Oh, gawd. I think it's high time I split this thread.
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I want to explore a topic I know very little about: the subtle body.

"A subtle body is one of a series of psycho-spiritual constituents of living beings, according to various esoteric, occult, and mystical teachings. According to such beliefs each subtle body corresponds to a subtle plane of existence, in a hierarchy or great chain of being that culminates in the physical form.

According to Bhagavad Gita, one of the most sacred texts of Hinduism, the subtle body is composed of mind, intelligence and ego, which controls the gross physical body.[1] It is also known in other different spiritual traditions: "the most sacred body" (wujud al-aqdas) and "true and genuine body" (jism asli haqiqi) in Sufism, "the diamond body" in Taoism and Vajrayana, "the light body" or "rainbow body" in Tibetan Buddhism, "the body of bliss" in Kriya Yoga, and "the immortal body" (soma athanaton) in Hermeticism.[2] The various attributes of the subtle body are frequently described in terms of often obscure symbolism: Tantra features references to the sun and moon as well as various Indian rivers and deities, while Taoist alchemy speaks of cauldrons and cinnabar fields." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_body" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Wikipedia article also mentions chakras in relation to the subtle body:

"The Yogic, Tantric and other systems of Hinduism, the Buddhist psychology of Tibet, as well as Chinese (Taoist alchemy) and Japanese (Shingon) esoterism are examples of doctrines that describe a subtle physiology having a number of focal points (chakras, acupuncture points) connected by a series of channels (nadis, Acupuncture meridians) that convey breath (prana, vayu, ch'i, ki, lung)."

Recently I heard about how chakras and things like that are a part of the Matrix overlay. That's probably true! Neruoscientist Candace Pert wrote in her book Molecules of Emotion how the chakras fit the biological nervous system:

"I pulled out a diagram that depicted how there were two chains of nerve bundles located on either side of the spinal cord, each rich with many of the information-carrying peptides. He placed his own chakra map over my drawing and together we saw how the two systems overlapped. It was the first time I seriously considered that there might be a connection between my work and the Eastern viewpoint." -- https://books.google.com/books?id=w0Of1 ... &q&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So there seems to be truth to the chakra system. Still, it's still a Matrix overlay in the sense that the subtle body can be different on a deeper level than the physical human body. I imagine the deeper subtle body more like how Seraph appeared to Neo in one of the Matrix movies:



The subtle body is probably a result of the vacuum energy in "empty" space. All of space, even inside our bodies, is filled with enormous amounts of energy. Here is a video where Hal Puthoff describes the vacuum energy which is sometimes also called zero point energy:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blojNMW-Ias[/youtube]

The problem with the subtle body is that when as in the above post all theories have become a pot-pourii of unrelated and very separate ways of looking at the human energy field.
My suggestion would be to pick one and see if it fits.

The chinese medicine system. Meridians and tsubo's are very different than chackra's.
My idea of the subtle body?
When you hear that awful sound of fingernails, or sharp chalk across the blackboard.
Feel the parts of the body that cringe.(it's called Po in chinese and is related to the lung)

That's your subtle body.

With Love
Eelco

Eelco wrote:The problem with the subtle body is that when as in the above post all theories have become a pot-pourii of unrelated and very separate ways of looking at the human energy field.
My suggestion would be to pick one and see if it fits.

The chinese medicine system. Meridians and tsubo's are very different than chackra's.
My idea of the subtle body?
When you hear that awful sound of fingernails, or sharp chalk across the blackboard.
Feel the parts of the body that cringe.(it's called Po in chinese and is related to the lung)

That's your subtle body.

With Love
Eelco

I just looked at the chakra system. And as Candace Pert pointed out, the chakra points match certain areas of the nervous system in the spine. If several of the existing subtle body models differ, then to solve that dilemma it can be a good thing to look deeper all the way into the vacuum energy field. If the deeper subtle body is a result of the vacuum energy, then it can explain several different types of subtle bodies on higher levels.

Yes, I believe you are correct, we can feel the subtle body within our physical body. And one thing I have noticed with inner body awareness practice is that it's in my case a very weak feeling inside my body, except when there is pain or reactions to horrible sound and things like that. It's probably possible to boost the connection to the subtle body a lot with more body awareness practice. I just need to find a way to speed up the practice because it has been tediously slow progress. I believe our nervous system numbs out the feelings of the subtle body, because it has such powerful energy so when there are imbalances, then it becomes suffering and the nervous system numbs out a lot of it to prevent being overwhelmed. So the connection to the subtle body has to be done in a balanced and harmonious way, and the sign of that is inner peace and a pleasant feeling inside.

well if you are interested in an aid for practice.
I just posted a breath meditation in the silly section. I have found that one really helpful to keep my awareness in the body. Using the subtle breath/energy movements that are guided by the breath. The focus/attention is on the comfortable parts, which I find more difficult as well to feel. pain is easy. but where does it feel nice..

viewtopic.php?f=31&t=308&p=3354#p3354

With Love
Eelco

[Reminder disclaimer: This is only my own speculation.] Sophia consciousness is about equal power to everybody. As it is today where people have power over other people, is not only often nasty, it's actually a stupid situation even for those in positions of power. Because when you have power over other people you need to spend your time, effort and energy on controlling those you have power over. So people in positions of power are trapped as slaves within their own roles of authority.

There will probably still be a need for hierarchical decision-making, even with Sophia consciousness, and that can be done by Gaia AI connecting people and coordinating the decisions without any person needed as a boss or some hierarchical position like that. Donald Trump and Bill Gates will have as much power as you and me.

Anders wrote: There will probably still be a need for hierarchical decision-making, even with Sophia consciousness

Why would that be the case?

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Eelco

Eelco wrote:

Anders wrote: There will probably still be a need for hierarchical decision-making, even with Sophia consciousness

Why would that be the case?

Let's say that I want to build a skyscraper on some land. That's easy, I just manifest it out of thin air.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -- Arthur C. Clarke

Then others will probably object to my decision and claim that's a bad idea and would ruin this and that. So the decision to build the skyscraper, what architecture and design to use, on what geographical location and so on, that has to be a distributed decision within Sophia consciousness. I may make a proposal for such and such skyscraper but I can't just build it without taking its effects on the whole of society into consideration.

We have a simple example of distributed, trustless and peer-to-peer control in Bitcoin. Ordinary money is controlled by central banks. Bitcoin has no central authority. The creation of new bitcoins is determined by a mathematical algorithm, not by some bankster bosses.

I think the need for authority/heirarchy is an addiction to a bad idea, perpetuated by those who choose to control others.

I believe the idea, the inability to see any other way to live, to arrange ourselves...has been (subtly) stomped into us as a species.

I feel we need to change the collective consciousness, that this idea IS the "predatory" force--or at least its primary and most effective tool. From this anti-human/anti-life idea spawns the "value of ownership.

These ideas are the underlying root of our "possession" culture, where we can justify the few living at the expense of many. I don't think it has to be this way. I know it's hard Anders, but instead of rehashing and reinforcing the bad ideas, we should try imagining something different.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/DVg2EJvvlF8[/youtube]