The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard

[Christine]

So jiminii you bought and drank the kool-aid of a certain personage whose name I will not mention?

I have never attacked you, not ever, nor has anyone else, we have a duty to QUESTION the validity of what you report and the relationship it has to a man called LRH. I have read every word you have written and I would ask you why you have never responded to any of the points I bring up? You see, I know you as a friend, and there are mirrors within mirrors in the simulation we call reality.

How many times on how many Skype chats on how many threads did I ask you to listen? Simply slow down and listen to someone else other that your hyper active mind. I do thank you for keeping your writing in this one thread, it is helpful to many people who really don't know wtf you are talking about and will view anything attached to sci-fi-tology with a lot of hesitation.

YOU are important, LRH is not in the context of the reason Earth Empaths was founded. Love is the key to SELF knowledge. I am wondering why you are being triggered now? You seemed immune to it before.

With Love,
Christine

I checked out the entire 16 pages.
The only thing you do is praise Christine and attack Scientology and me.
To me that is a government plant.
There isn't anything written from that shows any interest in what I wrote.
Why are you on my thread?
Your only intention is to destroy the thread.

jiminii

[Christine]

Dr, Michael Salla, of Exopolitics, stated in 2010 that China has free energy devices ready for mass production, but that the USA is blackmailing and threatening it into hiding the technology. This in exchange of allowing China enter markets in America.

Dr. Michael Salla is a bug. China owns both sides. Carry on.

[Christine]

Really? How in the world do you come up with such a truly negative statement? Sorry Jim, but you are not the end-all, say-all of a healthy discussion.

This is why the ufo base in the Himalayas is offering free energy technology to India.
India is very poor, but could take the market from China easily with free energy technology.
So anyone who attacks this post is working for the mob, cabal, or whatever else you want to call them.
jiminii

[Christine]

Ok, now I am all caught up on the exchanges here.

It has become tiresome and jiminii when you go on the attack and claim ownership of a thread, you clearly do not comprehend what Earth Empaths was founded on. Period. If you don't feel love, or trust or delve into the aspects of life that are b.e.a.u.t.i.f.u.l you are the one who has stepped into his own mud puddle.

Have you even noticed how many folks don't post here any more? How you dominate verbosely and dismiss others? What happen to your confront? Do you really think you alone with a LRH-personality implant and a few followers are OT enough to save the world? Naga spoke her truth, I speak mine, as does Phil and everyone else here, this is honor. If you don't like our points of view that is your given right but please behave with some dignity.

You don't own threads and if you are claiming the right to attack people here then best you retreat to your own website or forum.

With love,
Christine

[jiminii]

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Re: The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
Postby Naga_Fireball » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:45 am

Pretty sure aerospace engineers in India are capable of inventing their own innovative technology.

It is possible that extra terrestrial life might help humans, but many believe our species is far too warlike to deserve any extra help in this regard.


The whole fixation on the Himalayas and the "mystery of the orient" is straight out of Blavatsky and Crowley style mysticism.

Were all just too retarded to get it done without owing it all to some higher power if you believe that crap

Read this and show me she has done anything to validate anything she says. I have been in aerospace NASA companies 15 years in the biggest companies in the world and she obviously hasn't got a clue to what and where they build aircraft. What she says is NOTHING. She has only an OPINION of what ET's are about, she's never been on a ship so how can she know anything about it.

She knows NOTHING about the Himalayas that has nothing to do with Blavatsky and Crowley because she's never checked it.

I am living with a family. The father here KNOWS about the UFO base in the Himalayas. Almost everyone here does. My friend and all their friends KNOW you can't go there because it is guarded by military soldiers from both the China side and the Indian side.

She knows NOTHING but pretends she knows everything. "We are just too retarded to get it done without owing it all to some higher power if you believe that crap.", proves she KNOWS nothing about creation and where we came from.

All of what she says is a complete invalidation of anything I say on my thread. Go check the rest of her posts on this thread.
There is nothing written from her that says anything about, or shows any interest in anything I wrote.

This means she doesn't read any of it. Go ahead, ask her, Did she read about the part I wrote about the Scientology project called Snow White which was to go in and get all the data about the government flooded the entire Government system with lies to discredit Scientology, who they labeled as enemies of the state that are the people they think threaten their entire conspiracy. They flood everything department from FDA, CIA, FBI, IRS, all of it right down to the state districts and all the state governments write down to every police department in USA.

We copied all their false reports they flooded the entire government system with that would have literally closed down their entire operation. We had the proof, and a supreme court judge in California pulled the entire case into the state and dropped all charges. We didn't want the case dropped because we had proof the government had a conspiracy against us,
but when the government gets caught doing illegal programs they just drop the case so no one can find out the truth.

ASK HER did she read anything in any of my posts. What she wrote above is proof she has read nothing and every post she put on the last 16 pages is a direct attack against Scientology and/or me, means her only intention is to destroy the thread.

I NEVER GO TO OTHER PEOPLE'S THREADS TO ATTACK ANYTHING THEY SAY. Why is she deliberately attacking this TREAD???

That is the ONLY REASON SHE COMES TO MY THREAD AND THAT IS TO ATTACK IT.

jiminii

[Christine]

jimnii ... of all people you should not fling around demands for proof of anything. Her post is not an attack, at least I can't see it that way. I am seeing someone who is mirroring an aspect of yourself, welcome to the hall of mirrors.

I am going to close this thread for a while, have never felt that was the correct action to take on any other thread on ee... time to take a break, plant a garden, walk barefoot, go fishing ... be cool.

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Re: The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
Postby Naga_Fireball » Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:45 am

Pretty sure aerospace engineers in India are capable of inventing their own innovative technology.

It is possible that extra terrestrial life might help humans, but many believe our species is far too warlike to deserve any extra help in this regard.


The whole fixation on the Himalayas and the "mystery of the orient" is straight out of Blavatsky and Crowley style mysticism.

Were all just too retarded to get it done without owing it all to some higher power if you believe that crap

Read this and show me she has done anything to validate anything she says. I have been in aerospace NASA companies 15 years in the biggest companies in the world and she obviously hasn't got a clue to what and where they build aircraft. What she says is NOTHING. She has only an OPINION of what ET's are about, she's never been on a ship so how can she know anything about it.

She knows NOTHING about the Himalayas that has nothing to do with Blavatsky and Crowley because she's never checked it.

I am living with a family. The father here KNOWS about the UFO base in the Himalayas. Almost everyone here does. My friend and all their friends KNOW you can't go there because it is guarded by military soldiers from both the China side and the Indian side.

She knows NOTHING but pretends she knows everything. "We are just too retarded to get it done without owing it all to some higher power if you believe that crap.", proves she KNOWS nothing about creation and where we came from.

All of what she says is a complete invalidation of anything I say on my thread. Go check the rest of her posts on this thread.
There is nothing written from her that says anything about, or shows any interest in anything I wrote.

This means she doesn't read any of it. Go ahead, ask her, Did she read about the part I wrote about the Scientology project called Snow White which was to go in and get all the data about the government flooded the entire Government system with lies to discredit Scientology, who they labeled as enemies of the state that are the people they think threaten their entire conspiracy. They flood everything department from FDA, CIA, FBI, IRS, all of it right down to the state districts and all the state governments write down to every police department in USA.

We copied all their false reports they flooded the entire government system with that would have literally closed down their entire operation. We had the proof, and a supreme court judge in California pulled the entire case into the state and dropped all charges. We didn't want the case dropped because we had proof the government had a conspiracy against us,
but when the government gets caught doing illegal programs they just drop the case so no one can find out the truth.

ASK HER did she read anything in any of my posts. What she wrote above is proof she has read nothing and every post she put on the last 16 pages is a direct attack against Scientology and/or me, means her only intention is to destroy the thread.

I NEVER GO TO OTHER PEOPLE'S THREADS TO ATTACK ANYTHING THEY SAY. Why is she deliberately attacking this TREAD???

That is the ONLY REASON SHE COMES TO MY THREAD AND THAT IS TO ATTACK IT.

jiminii

[Christine]

Hey all, I totally forgot I had locked this topic and then jiminii and cuitlahuac disappeared so I left it alone... until now. So if anyone wants to pursue this topic further we can do that.

[Naga_Fireball]

Hi Christine.
Jiminii did not enjoy my criticisms, as they were rudely phrased, but i wonder if it would help the non scientologist point of view to compare two science fiction novelists, Hubbard being one, to sort of illustrate how Hubbard voluntarily gave up "true" dreams of the future in order to build his cult.


Frank Herbert is going to be my counterpoint to Hubbard.

When Frank tried to publish Dune, the government was already so freaked out that he was asked literally by one of the publishers if his intention was to start a cult.

Herbert responded by saying "hell no" (verbatim). Then he got a full speed ahead for what later became the single most popular scifi series ever written.

Hubbard on the other hand, being a superlative writer himself, willfully used his talent not only building his cult but thereby depriving his followers of their individual dignity, a dignity absolutely necessary to the functioning of so called future sight and concern for the human race.

Herbert honored the old gods and the old traditions. Believe it or not, the god emperor Leto is actually an homage to the Greek goddess Leto, mother of Artemis/Diana, the moon goddess and goddess of the Wild Hunt and survival art.

Diana is the virgin goddess, a protector of women and children. Leto is a virgin and has an army comprised solely of women in the novels. His mother and father were intimately associated with the moon gods of the fictional planet Arrakis, and his adopted daughter and relative Siona is a definite reference to Artemis.

While alive, Leto expresses the divine feminine, to the point of accepting his own murder at the hands of a servant and his troubled and rebellious but beloved Siona.

Then at death he splits into virtually infinite pieces and transforms back into the sandworm (sun god) aspect.





I think all that shit is super interesting , especially how Frank loved history and the study of oppressed religions.

If scientology wss truly oppressed by our government it would have gone the way of Waco.

The continued existence as such really underlines scientologys role as one of the major cults of our age, mainstream yet totally backwards and limiting.

[cuitlahuac]

Thanks.

[cuitlahuac]

Anyone on this forum is free to comment on any thread in this forum.

Certainly.

If I think it's a load of repetitive nonsensical crap and say so, you are then free to provide an actual rebuttal rather than the whiny and defensive stance you stated in the posts above.

True, just as you are free to provide an actual rebuttal that you are not a CIA machine programmed to attack this thread, or that you are not Google AI crap.

16 pages of Ron Bot is quite enough IMO but it's an open forum. Asking Christine to come rescue you in your bullshit is amusing since she already stated her distaste for L Ron etc.

LRH is certainly not a "Mother Theresa of Calcuta" model of tolerance.

I would not knowingly click on any link supplied by associates of that Bob turd either, he distributes malware as fast as scienos spout crap.

We are in a "free will" area. Do as you see fit. You've spouted enough "crap" in this thread to prove that.