This is just from my own research and hopefully to answer some questions from cuitlahauc.


Cuitlahuac wrote


“Cult?

You were educated, work for and vote for non scientology politicians and society. Have you not seen the news this current year that Trump has come to power. Politicians in the USA, america and Europe are luciferian, Aleister Crowley adorators and led by a White Brotherhood teocracy. It is you who is immersed and integrated into a child sacrificing and pedophile wog (non scientology) cult. And I don't see you expressing yourself against that.

Are you also a luciferic, Crowley adorator and White Brotherhood led unwitting accolite to them? Wel. De facto you are.

So you "grow toward the divine Creator"?

Why don't you take the log off of your eye first? Then come back and lecture me.”


“Cult”? Yes by definition Scientology is a cult. a religious group that is:

1) Exclusive. They may say, "We're the only ones with the truth; everyone else is wrong; and if you leave our group your salvation is in danger."
2) Secretive. Certain teachings are not available to outsiders or they're presented only to certain members, sometimes after taking vows of confidentiality
3) Authoritarian. A human leader expects total loyalty and unquestioned obedience.

So let’s take the Idea that Scientology is a religious group,
Scientology is a body of religious beliefs and practices developed in 1954 by American author L. Ron Hubbard (1911–86). Hubbard initially developed a program of ideas called Dianetics, which was distributed through the Dianetics Foundation. The foundation soon entered bankruptcy and Hubbard lost the rights to his seminal publication Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health in 1952. He then recharacterized the subject as a religion and renamed it Scientology,[4] retaining the terminology, doctrines, the E-meter, and the practice of auditing.[5][6] Within a year, he regained the rights to Dianetics and retained both subjects under the umbrella of the Church of Scientology.

Now let’s take a look at: 1) Exclusive. “We’re the only ones with the truth, everyone else is wrong; if you leave our group your salvation is in danger."

First I must say from first hand experience, The Jehovah Witness practice this profusely and I see in your posts and others of like minded thought that I have seen and know of, The Scientologist also practice this whole heartedly. Now I have to say also that there are sects of Christianity and Judaism as well as Islamism that do the same. What we seem to have is a whole lot of MAN MADE RELIGIONS that can be called cults.

The Scientology religion was created around 60 or so years ago by one man that appeared to be deranged to some degree and I only say that from researching that particular human being and his sorry follies in life. The Jehovah Witnesses were also created not that far back. Their name did not come about until 1931 by a MAN calling him self Joseph Franklin Rutherford. Here are a few paragraphs of that ordeal.

According to instructions Russell left behind, his successor to the presidency would share power with an editorial committee and with the Watch Tower corporation's board of directors, whom Russell had appointed "for life." But vice president Joseph Franklin ("Judge") Rutherford soon set about concentrating all organizational authority in his own hands. A skilled lawyer who had served as Russell's chief legal advisor, he combined legal prowess with what opponents undoubtedly saw as a Machiavellian approach to internal corporate politics. Thus he used a loophole in their appointment to unseat the majority of the Watch Tower directors without calling a membership vote. And he even had a subordinate summon the police into the Society's Brooklyn headquarters offices to break up their board meeting and evict them from the premises. (Faith on the March by A. H. Macmillan, pp. 78-80)

After securing the headquarters complex and the sect's corporate entities, Rutherford turned his attention to the rest of the organization. By gradually replacing locally elected elders with his own appointees, he managed to transform a loose collection of semi-autonomous democratically-run congregations into a tight-knit organizational machine run from his office. Some local congregations broke away, forming such Russellite splinter groups as the Chicago Bible Students, the Dawn Bible Students, and the Laymen's Home Missionary Movement, all of which continue to this day. But most Bible Students remained under his control, and Rutherford renamed them "Jehovah's Witnesses" in 1931, to distinguish them from these other groups.

Now the MAN calling him self Charles Taze Russell is the one that started the whole shebang. It was called the Watchtower society and formed a large corporation in the late 1800’s.

So here is the correlation then, LRH creates the Dianetics science of things to make money and actually goes broke and looses his rights to his seminal piece of science fiction. He then comes back and creates the Religion of the Church of Scientology so he can continue to scam money from the brainwashed masses. Selling his wares so to speak and virtually using a religious activity to do it. It would seem that there is no better way in the human society than this to deviously suck the masses in and become rich, don’t you think?

Well Just as a side note we can go all the way back to the Roman Catholic Church and the council of Nicea in the 300’s and how that group of Luciferians managed to compile a series of books and rewrite them to control the masses. The ones that were left out and called heresy were destroyed as best as they could and even murdered human beings that were caught reading them. Could one call that a cult then that actually forced their BS on the masses and used bloody violence to enforce that belief system?

Okay back to Scientology and its one MAN that created his twisted little religion on whoever would pay $500 dollars to be audited and so forth.

In April 1953, Hubbard wrote a letter proposing that Scientology should be transformed into a religion.[82] As membership declined and finances grew tighter, Hubbard had reversed the hostility to religion he voiced in Dianetics.[83] His letter discussed the legal and financial benefits of religious status.[83] Hubbard outlined plans for setting up a chain of "Spiritual Guidance Centers" charging customers $500 for twenty-four hours of auditing ("That is real money ... Charge enough and we'd be swamped."). He wrote:

I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick

So here is the exclusive stuff and a bit of that Authoritarian.

In the course of developing Scientology, Hubbard presented rapidly changing teachings that some have seen as often self-contradictory.[93][94] According to Lindholm, for the inner cadre of Scientologists in that period, involvement depended not so much on belief in a particular doctrine but on unquestioning faith in Hubbard.[93]

In 1966, Hubbard purportedly stepped down as executive director of Scientology to devote himself to research and writing.[64][95] The following year, he formed the ship-based Sea Organization or Sea Org which operated three ships: the Diana, the Athena, and the flagship the Apollo.[64][96] One month after the establishment of the Sea Org, Hubbard announced that he had made a breakthrough discovery, the result of which were the "OT III" materials purporting to provide a method for overcoming factors inhibiting spiritual progress.[96] These materials were first disseminated on the ships, and then propagated by Sea Org members reassigned to staff Advanced Organizations on land

These are just a few things that are and have been created as exclusive to this cult organization and I suspect that there have been quite a few folks that have been persecuted because they broke from LRH and his Machiavellian twisted BS. Appears that it all really does come down to the MONEY, HONEY, and any thing your mind can come up to make it is fair game.

One last mention on this exclusive piece, I have read the previous posts and seen the mean spirited responses to others on this thread. The entire thought of having the only truth and possibly become mentally violent with other members runs like a thick gold vein throughout most of the posts.

Time to look at Secretive. 2) Secretive. Certain teachings are not available to outsiders or they're presented only to certain members, sometimes after taking vows of confidentiality"

The Church of Scientology holds that at the higher levels of initiation ("OT levels"), mystical teachings are imparted that may be harmful to unprepared readers. These teachings are kept secret from members who have not reached these levels. The church says that the secrecy is warranted to keep its materials' use in context and to protect its members from being exposed to materials they are not yet prepared for.[134]
These are the OT levels, the levels above Clear, whose contents are guarded within Scientology. The OT level teachings include accounts of various cosmic catastrophes that befell the thetans.[161] Hubbard described these early events collectively as "space opera"

In April 1953, Hubbard wrote a letter proposing that Scientology should be transformed into a religion.[82] As membership declined and finances grew tighter, Hubbard had reversed the hostility to religion he voiced in Dianetics.[83] His letter discussed the legal and financial benefits of religious status.[83] Hubbard outlined plans for setting up a chain of "Spiritual Guidance Centers" charging customers $500 for twenty-four hours of auditing ("That is real money ... Charge enough and we'd be swamped."). He wrote:
I await your reaction on the religion angle. In my opinion, we couldn't get worse public opinion than we have had or have less customers with what we've got to sell. A religious charter would be necessary in Pennsylvania or NJ to make it stick. But I sure could make it stick

I repeated that stuff above for a dual shot at the raw deceit and pure love of money of this man.

So here once again we have this business of charging 500 dollars to be audited, It appears here that one cannot achieve something that is called clearing or getting to that without being audited by some higher member that is some kind of auditor. So new members and what not are kept in the dark, until they can pay for an audit and be hooked up to something called an E-meter. This sounds fairly close to a mild Lobotomy and one has to come up with 500 dollars to start the process of becoming clear. My God Man how many people are gullible to this? (Give me 500 dollars and let me hook this electrical device up to you and once we begin you will be susceptible to whatever I may implant into your brain as it is being electrically shocked, MK-Ultra anyone?). The whole Sea.Org and OC III stuff falls into this secret shit does it not. Got to wonder how much it costs to board one of the Greek god named ships.

Now here comes the worship of the Man/god short and sweet. 3) Authoritarian. A human leader expects total loyalty and unquestioned obedience."
So here are just some things to consider,

The Ethics system regulates member behavior,[169][170] and Ethics officers are present in every Scientology organization. Ethics officers ensure "correct application of Scientology technology" and deal with "behavior adversely affecting a Scientology organization's performance", ranging from "Errors" and "Misdemeanors" to "Crimes" and "Suppressive Acts", as those terms defined by Scientology.

A Scientologist who communicates with a suppressive person risks being declared a Potential Trouble Source.[175][176] Defectors who turn into critics of the movement are declared suppressive persons,[177][178][179][180] and the Church of Scientology has a reputation for moving aggressively against such detractors.

The term Fair Game is used to describe policies and practices carried out against people the Church perceives as its enemies. Hubbard established the policy in the 1950s, in response to criticism both from within and outside his organization.[16][17] Individuals or groups who are "Fair Game" are judged to be a threat to the Church and, according to the policy, can be punished and harassed using any and all means possible.[16][17]

Hubbard and his followers targeted many individuals as well as government officials and agencies, including a program of covert and illegal infiltration of the IRS and other U.S. government agencies during the 1970s.[16][17] They also conducted private investigations, character assassination and legal action against the Church's critics in the media.[16] The policy remains in effect and has been defended by the Church of Scientology as a core religious practice

The Office of Special Affairs or OSA (formerly the Guardian's Office) is a department of the Church of Scientology which has been characterized as a non-state intelligence agency.[199][200][201] It has targeted critics of the Church for "dead agent" operations, which is mounting character assassination operations against perceived enemies.

Shortly after the introduction of Dianetics, Hubbard introduced the concept of the "thetan" (or soul) which he claimed to have discovered. Dianetics was organized and centralized to consolidate power under Hubbard, and groups that were previously recruited were no longer permitted to organize autonomously.

Hubbard became the leader of a growing Dianetics movement.[48] He became a popular lecturer and established the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation in Elizabeth, New Jersey, where he trained his first Dianetics counselors or auditors
Hubbard started Scientology as a religion to establish himself as the overarching authority.
So then do any of the above pieces stir the mind toward the sayings and doings of Adolf Hitler in 30’s Germany? If you have studied any of what went on then you will see a correlation. I can also tell you that 9/11 and the Nazi organization of the Bush family pulled pages of documents straight from Hitler also. This is a bit off subject but does relate to the Scientology saga in ways. Read the Patriot Act and you will see that it is almost a complete copy of the National Socialist Act that Hitler put into play right after the Rischstadt Fire (two towers)(Pearl Harbor).( Church of Scientology). And the books of LRH. Just my observations.
Cult? I would say so, no lecture intended.

Okay after a rather lengthy piece on the Question proposed, Cult? I would like to address the next fine little attack on my character as is the way of Scientology. I would guess here that if I or anyone else does not agree with religion of Scientology we are or may be subject to attack. That can be read on the above post.

(Cuitlahuac wrote,)
“You were educated, work for and vote for non scientology politicians and society. Have you not seen the news this current year that Trump has come to power. Politicians in the USA, america and Europe are luciferian, Aleister Crowley adorators and led by a White Brotherhood teocracy. It is you who is immersed and integrated into a child sacrificing and pedophile wog (non scientology) cult. And I don't see you expressing yourself against that.”

In answer, yes I was educated and yes it was in a public school and a college in the United States of America. However I have never worked for any politicians. I did work for the Military and did a stint working for a local government. Your phrase non scientology only serves to show your huge ego. Scientology was not around when I was going to school so I guess we have to leave that one out. The mad man was still stirring his crazy brain with pure science fiction, should have stayed with that, I suspect he could have written some real good sci-fy

I would have to say that I was more than likely being brainwashed at those early years of my like by the world government society but have to say this my dear fellow, when I was in Vietnam my eyes were opened to so much shit I felt like I needed to put full waders on so I could walk through it. Today I have a full rubber body suit just to open my front door, since the shit has gotten so deep. I certainly think that you did not have to make such accusations towards me, or is that just your BS kicking in to attack like a rabid dog?

Okay so we get to play “Fair Game” here buddy, where were you educated, who did you work for and vote for? Do you have politicians where you live and have you actually worked for the non scientologist? All I ask is that you be truthful with me. You certainly were not born a scientologist and earn that big ego until you drank the Kool-Aid and eat the poison apple. So fair game. Hell, even your man/god worked for the government and went to schools that were controlled by those governments and He more than likely worked for a non scientologist and society and guess what, He was a capitalist and terrorist at heart and all he really wanted was to be worshipped by whoever he could sway into his way of thinking. So sorry that was just the “Fair game” being played.

Okay this part of your seemingly attach does not really make any sense to me. “Have you not seen the news this current year that Trump has come to power.” First of all, I really don’t care about a CEO of a corporation. Was the same with the previous one? So with that comment in play I am forced to believe that you may be a hater of this person and could be one of those snowflakes or libtards that gets bounced all over the web sites. Sorry again that is just an observation of hearing a comment from an open mouth that removes all doubt of stupidity. I guess I have to go back a little here, you made part of your accusation on me about voting. Well Sorry again bud, I am not a registered voter and have not been for years. I stopped giving my consent to criminals, murderers, Pedophiles and the like along time ago. However, I can say that I am active in getting information out.

This part of your tirade made me shake my head simply because you seem to spew vileness. I really do not know why you refuse to just have decent conversation with folks. It appears you have some kind of vendetta against anyone that does not believe in your BS. For that I feel sorry for you.
“Politicians in the USA, america and Europe are luciferian, Aleister Crowley adorators and led by a White Brotherhood teocracy. It is you who is immersed and integrated into a child sacrificing and pedophile wog (non scientology) cult. And I don't see you expressing yourself against that.”

First of all, I do Know what a politician is no matter what country they may be entangle in and I think that all politicians should be made to pay for what they have done to this world. Now this Aleister Crowley character you speak of was associated with your hero at one time. Here is a clip,

In the 1940s, Hubbard was in contact with Jack Parsons, a rocket scientist and member of the Ordo Templi Orientis then led by Aleister Crowley, and there have been suggestions that this connection influenced some of the ideas and symbols of Scientology.[438][439] Religious scholars Gerald Willms and J. Gordon Melton have stated that Crowley's teachings bear little if any resemblance to Scientology doctrine.

Would this be the one you speak of? Your comment of being led by White Brotherhood Teocracy if that is the right spelling or do you rather mean Theocracy? Spelling is not the issue just trying to understand where you may be going with that phrase. Reason asking is it sounds like a racist comment. I really thought this world could get beyond that sort of crap but it seems that the last CEO we had in this country felt it totally necessary to raise that ugly head and stir the pot. I would hope that perhaps you have grown beyond that sort of shit.

And now that last piece of crap you wrote, “It is you who is immersed and integrated into a child sacrificing and pedophile wog (non scientology) cult. And I don't see you expressing yourself against that.” This appears to be a direct attack on my character (character assassination, part of the Fair game approach). Here again all I can do is see the open mouth spewing shit and removing any doubt of stupidity. This is how I actually see this sentence, “It is I who is immersed and integrated into a child sacrificing and pedophile wog (Scientologist) cult. And I am not expressing myself against any of it but rather condoning it within my BS. Does that sound about right?

Here is some more of that open mouth and spew shit stuff and just seems to be folding right back at you.

“Are you also a luciferic, Crowley adorator and White Brotherhood led unwitting accolite to them? Wel. De facto you are.

Well I would say more Dejure for who I am.

So you "grow toward the divine Creator"? Yes I seek to find and be like the Divine Creator, I am not a religious human, I think all religion is nothing more than man made. I spend my time outside being with nature and it all is the Divine Creator so one could say that I spend my time being with the Divine Creator and talking to him/her as one could say. Now I have to ask you a turn around question here. Do you believe in a Supreme Being? Reason I ask is because it is part of Scientology religion.

“... the Church of Scientology has no set dogma concerning God that it imposes on its members. As with all its tenets, Scientology does not ask individuals to accept anything on faith alone. Rather, as one’s level of spiritual awareness increases through participation in Scientology auditing and training, one attains his own certainty of every dynamic. Accordingly, only when the Seventh Dynamic (spiritual) is reached in its entirety will one discover and come to a full understanding of the Eighth Dynamic (infinity) and one’s relationship to the Supreme Being.”

“Why don't you take the log off of your eye first? Then come back and lecture me.”

You know, throughout your posts I have seen so many references to the Christian Bible. I don’t know if they are something you heard or if you have actually read that 66 canon book and then you use certain scripture against others or you are really trying to help people to awaken to wise saying.

FYI, I peel that log from eyes on a daily basis and do my best to look before speaking. I have been doing that for a long time and I must say sometimes still I speak before removing it. Thank you for that bit of wisdom. However I never meant to lecture you in the first place and I do not intend to do it now. So all I have done is pull the log away and see what is in front of me with this entire thing.
I would really like to hear your life’s experiences or what you can talk about yourself and not so much about a dead Man. Thank you

Dearest Steven, Two words come through me right now... Wow and Love... and the ever present gratitude for your presence here, you are powerfully beautiful. Thank you.

Phil wrote:I bring this up because I felt then the same as I do now. PA has the rot of the founder's occurred beliefs

I bring it up here because to me it seems the opposite. Here the founder bares her soul to everyone, there's no appearances to be kept up or beliefs that need to be hidden, she lays it all out there...and doesn't seem to need to "defend"

Truth is love. LRon's teachings are mostly manipulative...if not outright deceptive

Truth is what it is. That's what I have found out.

LostNFound.

I said from the begining that Scientolgy is the biggest fastest growing cult today in the world. Thanks for confirming.

OSA? You failed to mention or find out that the IRS is operating OSA (Office of Special Affairs).

That is suspicious. Either there is ignorance on your part. On the other side, by not disclossing the IRS in Church of Scientology's OSA you are protecting the luciferic, Crowley adorator and White Brotherhood led "wog" society (non scientologists) you work for and of which you depend on.

cuitlahuac wrote:LostNFound.

I said from the begining that Scientolgy is the biggest fastest growing cult today in the world. Thanks for confirming.

OSA? You failed to mention or find out that the IRS is operating OSA (Office of Special Affairs).

That is suspicious. Either there is ignorance on your part. On the other side, by not disclossing the IRS in Church of Scientology's OSA you are protecting the luciferic, Crowley adorator and White Brotherhood led "wog" society (non scientologists) you work for and of which you depend on.

cuitlahuac - By all means share what you know and have directly experienced using "the tech" either in the Freezone or Ron's Org or with whomever you "process". Your snarky comments to LostNFound are not helpful nor appreciated and frankly won't be tolerated on ee. Now tell us why you are on this forum, what you wish to accomplish and stop being nonsensical. It isn't like any of us are neophytes with the subject of LRH El-Ron El-Rey whose aberrations were being disclosed and discussed. If he is your guru-god then stand on merit not argument.

I revisited Charlie the Unicorn yesterday and laughed my ass off... seemed an appropriate place to post this gif.

Charlie the Unicorn

Christine wrote: cuitlahuac - By all means share what you know and have directly experienced using "the tech" either in the Freezone or Ron's Org or with whomever you "process". Your snarky comments to LostNFound are not helpful nor appreciated and frankly won't be tolerated on ee. Now tell us why you are on this forum, what you wish to accomplish and stop being nonsensical. It isn't like any of us are neophytes with the subject of LRH El-Ron El-Rey whose aberrations were being disclosed and discussed. If he is your guru-god then stand on merit not argument.

Answering to replies is valid in every forum I have been into. Why replies to LosNFound would not be proper in here? The snarkyness is not mine but LosNFoun's. Of course I can answer in a civilized and loving manner, but LosNFound could do the same in writing his comments.

The subject of this thread is "The Truth of LRH". My direct experience with the tech would be another subject, but it would be putting the table for attack and I have to wonder why would I want to set myself for attack?

I have no problem wit LRH or El-Ron El-Rey aberrations being disclosed and discussed here, as long as I can also disclose and discuse the aberrations, or worse stuff, of the critiques.

cuitlahuac wrote:

Christine wrote: cuitlahuac - By all means share what you know and have directly experienced using "the tech" either in the Freezone or Ron's Org or with whomever you "process". Your snarky comments to LostNFound are not helpful nor appreciated and frankly won't be tolerated on ee. Now tell us why you are on this forum, what you wish to accomplish and stop being nonsensical. It isn't like any of us are neophytes with the subject of LRH El-Ron El-Rey whose aberrations were being disclosed and discussed. If he is your guru-god then stand on merit not argument.

Answering to replies is valid in every forum I have been into. Why replies to LosNFound would not be proper in here? The snarkyness is not mine but LosNFoun's. Of course I can answer in a civilized and loving manner, but LosNFound could do the same in writing his comments.

The subject of this thread is "The Truth of LRH". My direct experience with the tech would be another subject, but it would be putting the table for attack and I have to wonder why would I want to set myself for attack?

I have no problem wit LRH or El-Ron El-Rey aberrations being disclosed and discussed here, as long as I can also disclose and discuse the aberrations, or worse stuff, of the critiques.

I have no guro-gods nor I pretend to be one.

Cuitlahuac wrote on June 29, 2017
“LostNFound.

I said from the begining that Scientolgy is the biggest fastest growing cult today in the world. Thanks for confirming.

OSA? You failed to mention or find out that the IRS is operating OSA (Office of Special Affairs).

That is suspicious. Either there is ignorance on your part. On the other side, by not disclossing the IRS in Church of Scientology's OSA you are protecting the luciferic, Crowley adorator and White Brotherhood led "wog" society (non scientologists) you work for and of which you depend on.”

Christine wrote on June 29, 2017
“cuitlahuac - By all means share what you know and have directly experienced using "the tech" either in the Freezone or Ron's Org or with whomever you "process". Your snarky comments to LostNFound are not helpful nor appreciated and frankly won't be tolerated on ee. Now tell us why you are on this forum, what you wish to accomplish and stop being nonsensical. It isn't like any of us are neophytes with the subject of LRH El-Ron El-Rey whose aberrations were being disclosed and discussed. If he is your guru-god then stand on merit not argument.”

Cuitlahuac replied back to Christine on July 03,2017
“Answering to replies is valid in every forum I have been into. Why replies to LosNFound would not be proper in here? The snarkyness is not mine but LosNFoun's. Of course I can answer in a civilized and loving manner, but LosNFound could do the same in writing his comments.

The subject of this thread is "The Truth of LRH". My direct experience with the tech would be another subject, but it would be putting the table for attack and I have to wonder why would I want to set myself for attack?

I have no problem wit LRH or El-Ron El-Rey aberrations being disclosed and discussed here, as long as I can also disclose and discuse the aberrations, or worse stuff, of the critiques.”
And in another post on the same day this was added
“I have no guro-gods nor I pretend to be one.”

Dear Cuitlahauc, First of all I find it quite disturbing that you feel that you have to attack Christine and anyone else that dares to question or make replies to your nasty accusations and I must say most of what you say are without any foundation or merit. Your Posts always seem to be negative about someone else and all you can do, and it appears this way, is talk about how great and wonderful the Wizard of Oz (LRH) is and his church of scientology. I am so sorry that you appear so lost in the BS of this man made religion. This is not the only man made religion that is of like kind. Remember Jim Jones and his Kool-Aid drinkers. I have seen others propose questions to you in a very civilized manner and all you can seem to do is come back with some “snarky” reply that does not address the questions but rather cause further angst on this thread.

Certainly you can talk about your own experiences and have conversations in a civilized and loving manner with others and hopefully we all can see each others points of view and try to learn from each other. Yes this thread is called “the Truth of LRH”…. And for a good reason so mostly the research and comments are fairly on track about this person and his ways to create a religion and make money, would I be right with that statement? You yourself seemed to be a self proclaimed Scientologist and yet your demeanor on your posts shows a very ugly side of this religion. I would say that anyone listening to you would not even venture to want to join this thing. I use that word because this religion you so fondly speak of appears to be nothing more than a political movement.

I have to tell you that I have a very close friend that was part of this religion and finally got away with his life hanging in shreds
Now we are talking about LRH and his Church of Scientology. In my posts of June 29, 2017 I thought to show some truth about this man and how he thought in creating his money maker schemes. I did not mention Lee Rimni and others that left this church because of the corrupt and strange ways. I merely tried to respond/reply to your questions and nasty accusations made in your post dated June 27, 2017. I also asked questions back to you in regards to those accusations. You still choose not to answer anyone’s questions but rather give “snarky replies that only serve to be meaningless and in your own way try to create character assassination.

Now I would like to address some more replies/comments you came back with in your post on June 29th
“I said from the begining that Scientolgy is the biggest fastest growing CULT today in the world. Thanks for confirming.”

Thank you for confirming that Scientology is a CULT.

Can you explain this then to the greater audience?

Membership statistics
Scientology center in New York City
A 2001 survey found 55,000 people in the United States who claimed to be Scientologists. Worldwide estimates of Scientology's core practicing membership ranges between 100,000 and 200,000, mostly in the U.S., Europe, South Africa and Australia.[134] The 2008 American Religious Identification Survey found that the number of American Scientologists had dropped to 25,000.[187][188][189][190] A 2008 Trinity College survey concluded there were only 25,000 American Scientologists.[191] Scientology is also declining in the United Kingdom.[192][193] In 2011, High-level defector Jeff Hawkins estimated there were 40,000 Scientologists worldwide. [194]
Although the Church of Scientology claims to be the fastest growing religious movement on Earth, the church's estimates of its membership numbers are reportedly significantly exaggerated.[195][196][197]

And then there is this.

Jarvik, Elaine (September 18, 2004). "Scientology: Church now claims more than 8 million members". Deseret News. Archived from the original on June 16, 2008. Retrieved August 1, 2007. Melton, who has been criticized by some for being too easy on Scientology, and has been criticized by the church for being too harsh, says that the church's estimates of its membership numbers – 4 million in the United States, 8 to 9 million worldwide – are exaggerated. "You're talking about anyone who ever bought a Scientology book or took a basic course. Ninety-nine percent of them don't ever darken the door of the church again." If the church indeed had 4 million members in the United States, he says, "they would be like the Lutherans and would show up on a national survey" such as the Harris poll.

OSA? You failed to mention or find out that the IRS is operating OSA (Office of Special Affairs

So then you say that the IRS has taken over the OSA. Wow, does this mean that the Non Scientologist US INC. is now running the Church of Scientology? And could you possible be working for the politicians and Pedophiles and perhaps the other non scientologist? Just a question on my part. Here is some more,

The Office of Special Affairs or OSA (formerly the Guardian's Office) is a department of the Church of Scientology International. According to the Church, the OSA is responsible for directing legal affairs, public relations, pursuing investigations, publicizing the Church's "social betterment works," and "oversee[ing its] social reform programs". Some observers outside the Church have characterized the department as an intelligence agency, comparing it variously to the CIA or the KGB.[1][2][3] The department has targeted critics of the Church with dead agent operations and character assassination.[4][5]

OSA is the successor to the now-defunct Guardian's Office,[6] which was responsible for Operation Snow White and Operation Freakout; both are in Department 20 in the Scientology organizational chart. The most recent head of OSA International was Mike Rinder, who has since departed from the organization.[7]

Structure and personnel
At local Scientology organizations, directors (Special Affairs, Legal, Public Affairs) are OSA staff members. Local Directors of Special Affairs are known as DSAs. Members of the Office of Special Affairs are drawn from the Sea Org.[8]
In addition to regular staff, some church members also act as volunteer collaborators for the office, which cuts down on private investigation and legal research expenses.[9][10] Some volunteers participate under the notion that they receive special "ethics protection".[11] In one case a volunteer who read critical information about Scientology on the internet was led to believe that he would be unable to continue receiving services unless he performed a series of investigations for OSA.[12]

History
The Guardian's Office was established in 1966, and its initial mission was to protect the interests of the Church of Scientology,[13] and gather information on agencies and individuals deemed enemies of the organization.[14] The Guardian's Office was also charged with internal monitoring of current Scientologists, in particular heretics and notable defectors.[15] L. Ron Hubbard put his wife Mary Sue Hubbard in charge of the Guardian's Office,[14] and it was initially headquartered at Saint Hill Manor, in England.[6] The Guardian's Office functioned effectively as an Intelligence Bureau of the Church of Scientology, and planted members in key positions within federal government agencies, in order to obtain confidential material.[16] Most branches of the Church of Scientology soon had at least one member from the Guardian's Office on its staff, and the Guardian's Office itself had its own secret Intelligence Bureau at the top of its organizational structure.[6] The Guardian's Office was disbanded in 1983, and the bulk of its previous functions were then assigned to the Office of Special Affairs.[6]

Methods
Garry Scarff has said that he used to be an OSA operative. He has made a number of statements about the inner workings of OSA, many of which are disputed by the Church. In a sworn deposition taken between July and August 1993 and submitted in Church of Scientology International vs. Steven Fishman and Uwe Geertz, Scarff testified, "...I was directed, one, to go to Chicago, Illinois and to murder Cynthia Kisser, Cynthia Kisser being the Executive Director of the Cult Awareness Network, by a staged car accident." Kisser was not killed, and Scarff said: "I could not bring myself to harm or kill anybody."[17]

Tory Christman, a former volunteer for OSA has stated that the organization hired private investigators, fabricated criminal charges and harassed their targets, including at their place of employment, as well as their family members.[18]
Bonnie Woods, a former member who began counselling people involved with Scientology and their families, became a target along with her husband in 1993 when the Church of Scientology started a leaflet operation denouncing her as a "hate campaigner" with demonstrators outside their home and around East Grinstead. She and her family were followed by a private investigator, and a creditor of theirs was located and provided free legal assistance to sue them into bankruptcy. After a long battle of libel suits, in 1999 the church agreed to issue an apology[19] and pay £55,000 damages and £100,000 costs to the Woods.[4][20]

Nancy Many was a high-level GO operative during Operation Freakout, and in a 2013 television interview for Dangerous Persuasions on the Discovery Channel, described intimate details of the operation to harass Paulette Cooper, including her own personal involvement. In the documentary she also explicitly confirmed the existence of "The Messianic Program", a GO interrogation program designed specifically to test the subjects reaction to the teaching that L. Ron Hubbard was "on level with Jesus and Buddha". This program was only ever administered to trusted GO agents by their superiors, and never to outside Scientologists, indicating its extremely classified nature.[21]
Among the targets of OSA operations are Free Zone groups

Okay, the bigger question here is if the IRS has taken over this OSA, is this no longer a part of the Church of Scientology or does that question above apply and perhaps in one of those secret parts of the cult? Know this, Whenever a religious organization applies for a 501(c)(3) which is an exempt tax thing that the IRS has, then that organization becomes part of the government and that is the new God or semi god that is in control of the religious organization. The IRS controls. It really does come down to MONEY as their God.

Christine asked this one simple question and I do believe she has asked it before.
“Now tell us why you are on this forum, what you wish to accomplish and stop being nonsensical.”

May I ask why is it that you refuse to answer this one simple question which is a civilized loving response from Christine? I have also asked some very simple questions in reply to your posts and I do believe I have answered your questions to my good ability. I have done my research into your speak and believe me I have done so much more in that respect however just to bring this into a non attack mode as you seem to think may happen if you actually speak some truth, I would really be interested to hear your personal experiences. As Christine has said we are not neophytes when it comes to LRH and the others. I thank you for at least stirring the pot in this topic. Now if only you could tell us what you believe and why and that may be too much on my behalf to ask. I do not mean to pry however I do mean to understand and search for truth.