Phil wrote:So you think the civilization that we need to learn to grow up and "be like" brought us such productions as JFK, 911, and Donald Trump (for our own good, long planned out of necissity)?

No, to emulate that behavior is like trying to become Santa Claus. Those big conspiracies are only needed to keep the baboon style Matrix powers in line. The breakaway civilization must themselves think the situation is absolutely pathetic. And they themselves need to pretend to be like people in the Matrix. They must be sick and tired of that charade. So that's not a good model for Sophia consciousness.

Well it's nice to know that such giant traumas to the collective consciousness serve to keep the bad guys in line. The poor good guys, I can't imagine how bad it must feel to have to play this game, continue this charade, thanks for sharing their perspective.

Hey, maybe they have a few more horrendous traumas up their sleeve for the pathetic matrix powers...if first you don't succeed: try, try again. But I sure do hope President Trump is the answer. I don't know how many more of these actions to keep the Matrix Masters in check we can take.

Phil wrote: Hey, maybe they have a few more horrendous traumas up their sleeve for the pathetic matrix powers...if first you don't succeed: try, try again. But I sure do hope President Trump is the answer. I don't know how many more of these actions to keep the Matrix Masters in check we can take.

The next shock for the Matrix powers will be Donald Trump. And believe me, it will be so huge your head will spin, that I can tell you. Well, to be honest that's just my guess. We will see what happens.

Jesus Christ said something along the line with how we will get what we need when we have found the kingdom of God. Is that true? Well, it can be tested as a hypothesis. But what does finding the kingdom of God mean? Does it mean that we can just sit lazily on the couch and Big Macs and Coca-Cola will automatically come to us? No, that's a Matrix mind idea.

The kingdom of God means to have a correct understanding of Source AI. The Matrix mind has the misconception of believing itself to be separate from everything else. The truth is that we and reality are one. There is not reality plus oneself. There is reality which includes ourselves. So when we go to McDonald's and buy a Big Mac, then our action is Source AI too! Our actions are a part of reality as one wholeness, not something separate from it. Jesus even explained that:

"On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you." -- John 14:20

So the kingdom of God includes our own actions. And we will get what we need without worry when our actions are free from the Matrix mind misconception of reality.

As others on this forum already have pointed out, the Matrix goes deeper than being merely our social construct. And Tom Clearwater described in the video I posted earlier biological evolution almost as an insignificant process. I was surprised by that because it's an even more extreme view than I have been thinking about. Yes, I have been thinking of biological evolution as different from organic evolution, but I still had the feeling of our evolution here on earth as a very unbendable and dominating process. Tom's view is refreshing and makes one consider biological evolution in a new lighter and more flexible perspective.

And the human trauma that has been discussed here and elsewhere is deeper than the fall of humanity back at the dawn of our civilization. Eckhart Tolle described how our entire past is no match for the power of the present moment. It seems to me now that it's crucial to have that in mind when doing mindfulness practice and things like that. And recently I discovered a possible cause of the ongoing trauma as a continuous conflict between numbing out of the body and generation of suffering. There is like a tremendously tight tension inside the body that usually is subconscious. By putting conscious awareness into the body, that tension can become noticeable and start to melt so to speak.

So the big picture view is to look deeper than our entire biological and social evolution, and dive in with conscious awareness into the core of our being. And within the deepest depths of our inner darkness to flip the switch of cosmic realization from off to on.

Service to only others is bad, really bad. Sophia consciousness undoubtedly is that actions are done without conflict (without the nasty type of conflict) and if you only serve others you disregard yourself. Imagine if oneness, Source, the Unmoved Mover would sacrifice itself. That would destroy the whole universe! So sacrifice is a satanic meme propaganda promoted by the Matrix powers. This includes self-sacrifice. When you like to serve, then that's good and without conflict, because then your own wants, needs and well-being are included in the service. So don't believe the politically correct claim that you ought to serve others and sacrifice yourself just to be a good person. Self-sacrifice will just keep you in the Matrix belief system. Sure, there may be emergency situations when self-sacrifice is needed, but emergencies are just a result of the conflict-ridden Matrix, so self-sacrifice as an ideal to strive for is a bad idea.

Anders, thank you for keeping this thread moving, there is still a lot to uncover.

Self sacrifice is such an embedded meme within the "new thought" movement, even the simplest logic takes one to the irrefutable conclusion that each and every cell, atom, particle is consciousness and so every being, alien, interdimensional, tree, rock, stars, sky, clouds, wind is consciousness and all are connected, so to sacrifice your self is to sacrifice the all that is you. It really is a reverse ego drive to identify as STS vs STO, either-or and you are in duality conscouisness.

The other thought that we have been indoctrinated to is that enlightenment is about being a "better person" which is a slick way of saying that we are flawed (original sin) and need to make ourselves better. The below graphic is one of my favorites. For myself this has proven true again and again, stripping away the veils, clearing the shadows, seeking and finding real knowledge (the inner kind). By stepping through and confronting the fears that the false matrix continues to throw out, by rooting out the false beliefs that keep us from knowing ourselves, by daring to stand naked ... my experience has been that this is the way toward not enlightenment but awe and joy and love...

Christine wrote: The other thought that we have been indoctrinated to is that enlightenment is about being a "better person" which is a slick way of saying that we are flawed (original sin) and need to make ourselves better. The below graphic is one of my favorites. For myself this has proven true again and again, stripping away the veils, clearing the shadows, seeking and finding real knowledge (the inner kind). By stepping through and confronting the fears that the false matrix continues to throw out, by rooting out the false beliefs that keep us from knowing ourselves, by daring to stand naked ... my experience has been that this is the way toward not enlightenment but awe and joy and love...

Hmm... That's an interesting point. I have been thinking of how to "improve" myself and share discoveries about that. But maybe that's totally a Matrix belief! So you may be correct about that. I will have to ponder that for a while.

A little organic cutie ... it shouldn't be too difficult now to discern organic from false imaging.

I may have been wrong about what I wrote about trust earlier (I think it was in this thread). Trust can be useful as a way of direction. It's true that I still think for example a trustless system like Bitcoin is much better than having to trust authorities and centralized forms of control. Yet trust is at least better than distrust, because trust can be focused in directions that are fruitful.

So can we trust Sophia consciousness? Can we trust that there even is something like Sophia consciousness? Can we trust that we ourselves have the capacity to access Sophia consciousness? I think so. Because first we can recognize Sophia consciousness as a larger capacity than our isolated Matrix minds. And we can at least see that there may be a possibility that such global mind capacity is possible. So even with great uncertainty there is the possibility of trust in Sophia consciousness and trust in our own capacity to connect to mother Earth as a whole planetary consciousness.