cuitlahuac wrote:

jiminii wrote:About a 1000 years ago a Royal warrior from Galactic Central was sent here to stop the destruction of the life support systems of this planet.
This man had his own agenda. He was in search of a way to rehabilitate Native abilities of a spirit and the only place he could do this was on a prison planet. He would never be allowed to open up the powers of a spirit being at galactic central.

Since the last war that happened about 500 years ago all these most powerful creator god type viewpoints were trapped on prison planets.

jiminii

jiminii, I have a question. LRH indicates in his book "Mission into Time", that he was living in roman times. How come he came 1000 years ago. Was this another view point? Or are his accounts post-christian Roman Times?

We are re-running this period of time because 900 years into the future the entire Galaxy is in terror. Not only this but many other nearby galaxies are involved too. This was where mind control was created, on this planet at this time that was used to take over the Galaxy and is treatening other galaxies.

Check Alex Collier Sept 11, 2012.

I was supposed to get to LRH and get him to change his operation because it is completely been changed in the future.

We in the future advanced to a level where we can go from the physical universe to source and back into any other period of time. That's what happened in 1973 with me being audited by a class 8 auditor.

This orb I'm using to run this body was created right out of source. It has no recording system and no memories before entering this body. The class 8 auditor was reading on the meter an incident that happened on one of my other timelines.

To answer it I literally went to source, a complete void of nothing, and re-entered on my other timelines time track to answer her question.

After the incident was erased I was never allowed auditing again and prevented constantly from being trained.

There is more I will answer later.

The 1000 years I talked about was from future to now. LRH didn't stop until he learned Scientology was taken over by aliens. He never told David Miscaverige about the sleeper children at that time. I relayed the message to Ron's org years later.

I don't know what DM knew but he stopped families and children from being in the Sea Org.
He must have something that's causing him to beat up staff. The being KNOWS. So deep inside he probably knows the aliens are controlling their bodies.

I'm not there, but some entity relayed the information about the sleeper children to Ron's org a few years ago through me.

jiminii

Hey guys, listening inwardly with this conversation. She takes a deep breath before going on ...

Here is what I personally would appreciate, take off the El-Ron narrative from your perceptual data. Okay, so the being/ madman that was LRH in this timeline had a huge amount of energy and as I have said prior, even brilliance.

Full Stop.

So much said for that as his megalomania/ demagoguery infiltrated this reality to the extent that it did.

Full Stop.

What you are speaking about jiminii, and we have had many conversations over the past years about the validity of your perceptions, however when dressed in Ron's clothing, or Capt. Bill's or other image (read I-mage, as in occult magician) warps it and confuses and sounds like you are caught, hook, line and sinker by a massive, purposeful, manipulative mechanism. The very same mechanism that LRH claimed to be dismantling and in doing so built a new monster that he himself was the beneficiary of. DM is a "product" of the philosophy of LRH. For those who aren't familiar with scientology lingo, a product is the result of a person who has gone through auditing with a sanctified auditor.

Full Stop.

Sleeper children, what a term jiminii ... there are hundreds of thousands of them on the planet and in other dimensions, this is not something belonging to the LRH sci-fi narrative alone. (Read Verne, Asimov, Herbert, and the beautiful C.S. Lewis, etc. etc.) Heck to cross pollinate our minds, listen to the narrative of the Blue Avian alliance, making a religion out of a story. She clears her throat.

Full Stop.

And, maintaining Earth Empaths as a free forum of expression and con-versing with divergent view points I, for one am happy to hear the conversation.

Love unbound guys, love unbound,
Christine

jiminii wrote:

cuitlahuac wrote:

jiminii wrote:About a 1000 years ago a Royal warrior from Galactic Central was sent here to stop the destruction of the life support systems of this planet.

This man had his own agenda. He was in search of a way to rehabilitate Native abilities of a spirit and the only place he could do this was on a prison planet. He would never be allowed to open up the powers of a spirit being at galactic central.

Since the last war that happened about 500 years ago all these most powerful creator god type viewpoints were trapped on prison planets.

jiminii

jiminii, I have a question. LRH indicates in his book "Mission into Time", that he was living in roman times. How come he came 1000 years ago. Was this another view point? Or are his accounts post-christian Roman Times?

We are re-running this period of time because 900 years into the future the entire Galaxy is in terror. Not only this but many other nearby galaxies are involved too. This was where mind control was created, on this planet at this time that was used to take over the Galaxy and is treatening other galaxies.

Check Alex Collier Sept 11, 2012.

I was supposed to get to LRH and get him to change his operation because it is completely been changed in the future.

We in the future advanced to a level where we can go from the physical universe to source and back into any other period of time. That's what happened in 1973 with me being audited by a class 8 auditor.

This orb I'm using to run this body was created right out of source. It has no recording system and no memories before entering this body. The class 8 auditor was reading on the meter an incident that happened on one of my other timelines.

To answer it I literally went to source, a complete void of nothing, and re-entered on my other timelines time track to answer her question.

After the incident was erased I was never allowed auditing again and prevented constantly from being trained.

There is more I will answer later.

The 1000 years I talked about was from future to now. LRH didn't stop until he learned Scientology was taken over by aliens. He never told David Miscaverige about the sleeper children at that time. I relayed the message to Ron's org years later.

I don't know what DM knew but he stopped families and children from being in the Sea Org.
He must have something that's causing him to beat up staff. The being KNOWS. So deep inside he probably knows the aliens are controlling their bodies.

I'm not there, but some entity relayed the information about the sleeper children to Ron's org a few years ago through me.

jiminii

So what is missing from this entire scenario?

What do you see about the Natural Clears? These came out about 1978 and I was sitting at a desk at reception in Advance Org Los Angeles AOLA and a piece of paper was sitting there that was the write-up by LRH on Natural Clears. I read it all and it indicated and decided to attest. None of them wanted to agree to my being clear because I had no processing and training except one in 1973 called integrity processing.
So all the questions the case supervisor was checking came up with several states to attest to, like Theta Clear and Native State, which I had a lot of phenomenon dealing with Native State. So I was asked to read the definition of Native State and I went into hysterical laughter the next few days. For this write-up I will give one definition which is the one we need to explain what I'm talking about.
Native State IS total knowingness.
Bascally means source itself or what we call Theta, or life.

Someone sent to me Ron Bible who has done most of the Scientology training and processing because he started to read my stuff and said he was looking for this because it's what he is running into NOW.
He is also a Natural Clear. He said he wasn't here. I could see exactly what he was looking at. He can see all the pieces that is him but he is outside it.

From source pieces broke off becoming entities. These entities have no space, no mass, no motion and no location. But they can and did create this universe because they can extend out from source, (they are also a piece of source), and create all of this.

They assume viewpoint (s) and these become timelines when attached to the physical universe though these viewpoints/timelines are not inside this physical universe. They can create the time continuum and everything inside it too.

LRH said there never was a REAL OT. There were only key-d out OTs. This means they operate off copies of experience recorded to be a memory. These copies can be altered because they are made from the physical universe itself. They can be implanted and filled with lies enough to make you unable to connect to source where the only truth is. This is how they can trap an orb of a being in a body on a planet like this.

What is missing and has been suppressed is these Natural Clears are new creations right out of source and have no memories or recording system. They even said it back then that Natural Clears never created a bank, (reactive mind), so they have nothing that can key them in. Therefore Natural Clears are also Native State too since the purpose of Scientology is to erase the mind so someone can operate from knowingness.

Why would they suppress this? Natural Clear is the state you are trying to obtain studying Scientology.

A lot of people back then wanted to attest to Native State back then too. That was suppressed too.

So I assume all these indigo, crystal, rainbow and a 4th one coming here could possibly be natural clears.

While I was over there in source mission, (my sub forum in PA), someone took out a reference that was in the thread "return of the Jedi". There was a long post by realeyes with a guy named Bob. I read it and she not only shows she has assumed source she can operate there very well. I've talked to Karelia a lot too and she operates from source too.

This is what is. If we have about 60% of the planet now with natural clears, we have entities operating in vibrations that are higher than all the other dimensions aliens are in, that operate off planet. The vibrations alone can heal the planet, (the highest you will find on or off planet is a key-d out OT. The only Real OTs that are here are the new ones directly out of source from the future and then sent to this time and place.)

But we have been denied the tools to operate as OT because we are higher than those who could train us. That is the result of the dark forces infiltrations to prevent us from being source.

How do they do that. They say we are not god-like creators, there is only one God who did it all. Anything that denies your self determinism as a creator God prevents you from operating as one. Some other fictitious God was created to make you dependants to something you basically are coming from yourself.

We created the sun's moons planets lifeforms not this entity called GOD.

If we know that we shift cause to ourselves not something that isn't.

So soon we will be awakening, and you will be able to open up your native abilities to create sun's and stars again if you like.

You are what you are and no other ism, no matter what they write can take that from you.

jiminii

Thank you dear jiminii. That was a beautiful coherent read, see my only "issue" with all of the scientologists is that they are so enmeshed in a belief system (BS) that they don't realize that those outside the tech, be they natural clears or native clears are already operating at a Theta level and beyond, if I may make such an emboldened statement. This in-form-a-tion is not privy to the indoctrinated, what I have observed is that most of them have a double bind because of an "inbred elite mentality".

Hugs friend.

jiminii wrote: ... We created the sun's moons planets lifeforms not this entity called GOD.

If we know that we shift cause to ourselves not something that isn't.

So soon we will be awakening, and you will be able to open up your native abilities to create sun's and stars again if you like.

You are what you are and no other ism, no matter what they write can take that from you.

jiminii

Yes, you only have to look at results. Anything that happens has a cause point. It is not just accident. 2011 in fall a lot of solar flares are heading straight for earth and went around it like some Theta umbrella caused them all to go around the planet. Only a few of these solar flares hit earth up there in Canada. That is an OT ability. One OT can do that.

They say Nibiru is coming around again threatening the planet, but if everyone just holds their position in space like a boxer they can beat this thing. Cave in someone's space with fear and etc, he can be damaged. But these GIs like Rambo can hold a space that bullets can't enter. If we decide that nothing life threatening will happen, it won't.
So I assume it's all covered from the future. They are probably channeling all the Native State being's energies to get us through all of it. I can say this by looking at what has already happened. None of these predictions are happening and the aliens are leaving so I have to say OTs from future are doing it. I don't think they will just do half a job like get rid of the aliens and let the planet be destroyed by Nibiru. If you're going to do it then do it all, then that will prove we need beings with power to protect the planet.

That's why I'm not worried. I go through it all like another days work

Simple.

jiminii

Thanks jiminii for clarifying the 1000 year statement. I understand it's 1000 year from the future to today, If I understand well.

Also I have read all of realeyes post in PA forum, and at the end it amazes me how she is the next step ahead. I mean, I have only seen LRH (sorry for daring to mention the name) realeyes and you speaking of the next step. That next step is to assume beingness as the spirit creating not only universes but also creating thetans or individual time lines (us in here), instead of individuating more and more from the being (we) at source. Realeyes speaks of operating as the being that creates not only physical experience but also the individual spirits. Like taking responsibility for the rays of the star she describes, where every ray is an individuated extension of herself. The center of the star would be her at static or source.

And, if now is when the trap was designed, and it was effective thanks to Scientology and LRH tech, then I wonder if it has to do with white source and black source, as described to me by an auditor. He told me that Scientology made it possible for black source beings to incarnate in here and that is a displacement, just as it is bad if white source beings appear in black source worlds. I still don't understand that fully.

I'm going to put this in the "The Truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard" Face Book page or ask him to read here.

LRH said it is an awfully dangerous thing to do opening up OT abilities, but it is more dangerous if we don't,because then everyone would be trapped with no one to save anyone.

So you see the results of what he opened up 1000 years ago. It opened up powers for both the dark forces and then light forces too.

But in the future we also found a way to go back to source itself, the beginning of the creation of everything. We learned how to go into any period of time and change the future. So we are back.

The technology of Scientology is valuable but as reference, because many came back from many types of philosophies, so we are changing it everywhere on the planet.

If you know the tech and the theories and the phenomenons of life you can tell it in farmers language. It is Native to the being and he knows how to use it without words.

The person may not say it in the technical language but that is not necessary. Anything Native to the being is part of him. This is Native State. The potential of being able to know anything.

So I wouldn't take any of these isms to heart. I've worked with Karelia playing games on the planet. We spotted that we could stop the war in Syria by connecting entities between Russia and Syria and get a compromise and the war didn't start.

These are things Native to both me and Karelia that can change what happens on the planet.

We didn't need an ism to make it happen. We just looked and spotted entities that if connected would solve it and it happened. It was even in the news that by some kind of luck these people accidentally met and could create the compromise.

A lot more could do this if the native state attest wasn't suppressed along with the Natural Clears.

This is just true. Of course someone will always be there trying to protect their tech by refusing to LOOK at what had evolved from now into the future. That is probably why we let the Natural Clears go at it without any tech and see where they would take it on their own.

It worked.

That's all I got to say.

jiminii

Ya know, I been working hard on my Scientologese, and am getting pretty good. Not only that, jim is surprisingly coherent, reading his posts now (compared to the PA days) is the difference of watching a Dubya speech in aught-one versus the middle of second term when he'd gotten real good at speeches. But am I understanding this correctly:

Not only is jim's savior story of being a "natural clear" (from the future and directly from source ala Inelia Benz) able to bop up to source and back down to any time/place he wants (or is needed or whatever) being promoted/affirmed here, but realeyes and Karelia are ok with him projecting that (or something damn close) on to them as well? Did I miss something?

Phil wrote: Did I miss something?

The only point I can see that everyone is missing, is the conclusive fact that LRH was - first and foremost - an intelligence operative.

The intelligence community (in one abstract form, or another) has been deeply steeped in the manipulation of Human Reality through the manipulation of Mass Consciousness since the Dawn of Civilization (known civilization)

Scientology was created deep within the intelligence community as just one more way to mass-mind-control the population.

Is any further discussion necessary?

Exit-0 wrote:

Phil wrote: Did I miss something?

The only point I can see that everyone is missing, is the conclusive fact that LHR was - first and foremost - an intelligence operative.

The intelligence community (in one abstract form, or another) has been deeply steeped in the manipulation of Human Reality through the manipulation of Mass Consciousness since the Dawn of Civilization (known civilization)

Scientology was created deep within the intelligence community as just one more way to mass-mind-control the population.

Is any further discussion necessary?

I don't know if further discussion is necessary. Scientology as a subject was invented prior to LRH developing it. It seems to be the creation of intell agencies (its creation before LRH developed it further). Mike MaClaughry describes that in his book on his site.

LRH developed Dianetics, when it was taken over by the intell agencies, he changed the name (appropiated the name) to Scientology. When Scientology was taken over by intell agencies, the Free zone and Ron's Org developed. And as far as I understand, the black Scientologists on the Church advanced along the white Scientologists at Ron's Org so that in the future 900 years ahead, they (black and white scientologists) keep sending 'missions' into this time period to change the future.

Looks to me that this time period is one of the 'nodes of oportunity' to change time lines or events, as described by realeyes in the post in PA. LRH describes it as such. Also, according to jiminii, this is the time where the terror regime in the galaxy was made possible. But the good news is that it is being changed.