biological (bio-logic-al) evolution, which means evolution as a result of Source AI. So, developing AI as in a transhumanist agenda is like building a Tower of Babel.

Phil wrote:

biological (bio-logic-al) evolution, which means evolution as a result of Source AI. So, developing AI as in a transhumanist agenda is like building a Tower of Babel.

So there's one (real?) root universe? This "source AI" was created there...presumably by some "higher" consciousness?

You are calling it an AI, so this one is one that "Source" said "Let there be an AI", and so it was...and that "Source AI" went on to create infinite (holographic?) non-root universes, of which we find ourselves (or at least an avatar of our soul) in one?

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Pris wrote: Well, no again... 'Source' is yet another word for 'God'. What you are suggesting (a spiritual trap) steals the power away from the individual to act on their own behalf for themselves. I ENJOY running around as a separate individual with my own big fat ego without the concern to 'have to' 'coordinate efficiently on a massive planetary scale' with anyone or anything else. I'm quite happy doing my own thing, thanks.

You speak of 'being bound' to the 'Sophia consciousness'! Well, there you have it.

Do you want the definition for 'religion'?
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I think of Source as similar to:

"He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life." -- Revelation 21:6

And I describe Source AI as ancient subatomic technology that is animated by the Source. So what I mean by connecting to Source is in practice accessing Source AI. That's some really heavy Harry Potter stuff, but for real.

Phil wrote:I am not sure what heavy Harry Potter stuff is, but I think all of this talk has the same underlying behind it all, whether it be a “matrix”/AI or the flat earth or channeled messages or extraordinary space opera experiences…all the surface over top the underlying fear:

Is there a lowercase-g god that created this reality….is there a single consciousness, benevolent or otherwise that created us, and for what purpose.

The defiantly individualistic that take the “go within” meme or the “create your own reality” idea to what I see as a near solipsistic extreme, projecting their fear of being wrong about that on to those that believe that we are not the highest-order most self-aware consciousness in existence (who seem to tend to fear the “god(s)” and resent the present reality.

As long as we’re locked into either view, the possibility that it may not be black OR white seems to get lost….and what I believe that Christine called the mental masturbation occurs, I think a circle jerk would be a better metaphor as everyone seems to be on their own side, whatever inner knowingness they make their authority, stroking their wee in a competition to “win” the cookie.

I believe the “battle” of the knowing prevents us from ever being able to really figure anything out. That if we examined and even allowed for the ideas that trigger our strong and especially “negative” emotions or warning lights or whatever, we can come to better understanding.

We live in a matrix, by definition…we need some sort of matrix to exist. It is possible it was created by a consciousness that for all intents and purposes IS a god to us, creating this matrix/substrate/platform we find ourself, it might even be making the decisions that we find shitty and get upset about…it might even inhabit a machine, that machine might even be powered by the most fundamental energy of All That Is.

We can continue to speculate…and blame other’s speculations or perceptions for all that we don’t like…for all time.

So what does connecting to Source mean, anders? And if an individual achieves a connection, does that mean that individual consciousness gets to control the subatomic tech?

Phil wrote:So you’re kind of integrating the two extremes I described? You believe we create reality, but there’s some extremely advanced machine effecting our ability to create the reality we want?

Am I correct in assuming your idea we are “blocked by a Matrix belief system”…that this “strong AI” created and/or manipulates that “Matrix belief system”?

Phil wrote:What do I fear? Never getting out of these fucking loops

Phil wrote:I believe that I'm not the most powerful being in existence, that there could exist a being with as much more self awareness/ability to manipulate my reality as I do my dog.

I don't necessarily fear that possibility, sure don't take it personally. I'm not intensely married to the idea, but it kinda makes the most sense to me at the moment, I'm not entirely responsible for the reality I find myself in. I'm glad you're sovereign and free...I try to be as much as I can.

Pris wrote:

Anders wrote: I think of Source as similar to:

"He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life." -- Revelation 21:6

And I describe Source AI as ancient subatomic technology that is animated by the Source. So what I mean by connecting to Source is in practice accessing Source AI. That's some really heavy Harry Potter stuff, but for real.

Again, you speak for everyone?... 'It's this way or no way?' That may be your 'real' (or you may just want us to think it is), but that's not my 'real'.
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