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Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 2:56 pm
by Eelco
Cristian wrote: You guys are weird ...the wrong weird.

It don’t want them to be true . The ones that like enforcing rules, bans and closed threads. But in the end they may be right . We are so silly and fucked up , we cannot act in a decent manner in tune with a decent environment.

If you guys are not tired of all the crap ...I am.

Sad...
What made you think this place would be different?
People remain what they have always been.

Those that become free are never seen on the forums again...
The rest just keep debating the possibilities and get some ego-boost from clever worded posts..

Me? I'm no different... Just another sheep
With Love
Eelco

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:05 pm
by Christine
Eelco ... what makes you think it can't be? What you say is so self defeating. Has anyone one of you naysayers, curmudgeons, back biters, victimhoods even read what ee was founded on? Do you care enough to reach for the extraordinary? Some of us do, so if ee isn't for you there is nothing that binds you here.

This is love: to fly toward a secret sky, to cause a hundred veils to fall each moment. First to let go of life. Finally, to take a step without feet. ~Rumi


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Eelco wrote:
Cristian wrote: You guys are weird ...the wrong weird.

It don’t want them to be true . The ones that like enforcing rules, bans and closed threads. But in the end they may be right . We are so silly and fucked up , we cannot act in a decent manner in tune with a decent environment.

If you guys are not tired of all the crap ...I am.

Sad...
What made you think this place would be different?
People remain what they have always been.

Those that become free are never seen on the forums again...
The rest just keep debating the possibilities and get some ego-boost from clever worded posts..

With Love
Eelco

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:09 pm
by Eelco
Because like any forum.
EE is the sum of its members...

Seeing what the member base has become....
I had the hopes when I joined last year this forum would lift of into something special..

Tell you what. I'll only contribute the hopeful stuff from now on ok?
Keeping silent, if I cannot say something Truthful that is also helpful.

With Love
Eelco

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 3:11 pm
by Christine
Thank you Eelco, your post on Buddha this morning had the real beauty of transparency... your light doth shine. It isn't even the hopeful stuff... some of it is hard to deal with, everyday I go deeper. Balance, on the head of a pin.
Eelco wrote:Because like any forum.
EE is the sum of its members...

Seeing what the member base has become....
I had the hopes when I joined last year this forum would lift of into something special..

Tell you what. I'll only contribute the hopeful stuff from now on ok?
Keeping silent, if I cannot say something Truthful that is also helpful.

With Love
Eelco

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:13 pm
by Cathryn
Away from division and back to Jung at risk of derailing Troll thread but not really. Trolls (real ones) depend on the ego antipathies in the UNCONSCIOUS. They depend on division by knee jerk defence mechanisms which are usually unconscious. Its called the unconscious because it is UNCONSCIOUS. I guess a good start is disengage from what seems to be needing a response/defense/correction/ [...fill in the gaps..] and reflect. Addressed to anyone who might find it useful to reflect on.

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:36 pm
by maggie
Christine wrote:Thank you Eelco, your post on Buddha this morning had the real beauty of transparency... your light doth shine. It isn't even the hopeful stuff... some of it is hard to deal with, everyday I go deeper. Balance, on the head of a pin.
Thanks too Eelco!! Thanks Christine!! Thanks to all Trolls in all times!!

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The idea I have is that whole hearted focus expressed in action IS magic. My waffling is the waver that dilutes the power. IMO my willingness to act on what I prefer to prefer DESPITE ALL EVIDENCE is a very powerful one. (But I do not always choose what I prefer) Is this what the troll in me needs to be paid to allow me to cross the bridge?

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For instance, about being happy no matter what. It is just NOT a simple matter but the hardest of tasks because I become churlish. Being happy now has direct feedback but part of me still enjoys being unhappy. That is what I see in people around me too.

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My love needs to be given to my inner troll and forgiveness and a new day.
"OK, No fault, Choose again."

The AH HA is the No fault, Choose again paradox. Being that ALL or Nothing is the binary artifice, I go with sliding in to preference. The way I was tricked IMO was always that my previous choices were the cause of anything NOW. The power to choose again and again is greater than anything I ever tried.

SO, I know now what I am facing to be "I am sovereign" living in a great place: Am I willing to commit 100% to celebration of what I choose before evidence? Am I willing to choose what I would celebrate? Both sides of a coin IMO to feed my inner troll.

If failure is not an option, and if freedom is inevitable, whoo hoo. Why not just be happy now? I just cannot understand what in (me too) the world would be the continued perverse pleasure of suffering but do I need to study it anymore? NO.

I will (by the power of being free to choose) turn my head around. And I will say YES. That is so freeing to me....that I can constantly change my mind. I doubt the utility of me telling you to do the same but I HOPE to show this is a very wonderful strategy.

After sleeping late, I am enjoying a doughnut and coffee to celebrate that this is my best day ever. Here I am a few minutes shy of noon. The sun is warming everything today after icy rain and I have plans to buy chicken food, clean my kitchen and start clearing some things out so I can put away my kitchen stuff. The troll is going with me (us) out for a walk. We will bring back more gifs hehe. Love, Maggie

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 5:43 pm
by Eelco
[youtube]https://youtu.be/FvcJqcUlYTo[/youtube]

With Love
Eelco

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:21 pm
by Naga_Fireball
Although spring is near, not everyone feels good at the same time.

Also, I prefer public messages to all the cloak and dagger "now fear this" & "watch out" PMs.

If we are going to bother worrying at all, might as well worry about it all. Without false guilt.

Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2016 9:34 pm
by Christine
Doing some house cleaning myself, any one care to come for tea?

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Yes! Spring is in the air, gonna be the best March ever!

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Re: How (Government?) Trolls Control an Internet Forum

Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:03 am
by Anders
Most government trolls are no doubt recruited because they are level-headed, if that's the correct term, cool cucumbers/customers. Because they need to be able to handle information professionally. Ordinary trolls on the other hand mostly just want to feed their pain bodies:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RglA1yjArT4[/youtube]