All lifeforms, plants and animals etc, were originally created by a consciousness that is outside this universe. These are creator gods that use thought forms, (looks like ghost), to animate the lifeforms. Without thought forms there is no life. They are programed and given a personality like lion, dog, tree, fish and given a survival methodology to operate with and learn more with experience.
The animated force comes from source that was initiated by the creator gods and then put into automatic. Then usually one timeline from source runs the entire planet like Gaia. All the life forms and everything else like weather are controlled by this one timeline like Gaia.
There would be no creator gods, (orbs), running these thought forms normally because the planets were basically like doll houses for creator gods to play with, create new lifeforms and etc.
But as we had these pain factories in everyone creating endless chains of painful incidents, (minds, records of copies of experience), we got into real wars, not just doll house wars for fun, and we started trapping orbs in lifeforms on these electronically controlled prison planets.
So being stuck in human bodies is not a Natural phenomenon. It is a forced entrapment of orbs, (timelines created by creator gods).
We have solved the problem that created these trillions of years pain factories everyone is carrying around with them, by creating new orbs with this MIND removed, (natural clears).
If you are a Natural Clear, you are here to help change the future. You are not subject to karma that keeps you incarnating forever. When you die you can leave this place. There is no physical universe created mind, the electronic implant machines can attach to and trigger them back into the implant station wipe and alter their memories and incarnate them again.
If you are not a Natural Clear you would need training and processing to free yourself, or just hang around until your number pops up and you get a new orb that is a Natural Clear and then your free.
That is the only true freedom I know about coming from the future. And it is not depending on anything other than the game is solved and those in the future wants to evolve to a creation of a new universe, but we have to get everyone unstuck from this one before we can do it.
That is what we are doing. This old universe that keeps repeating itself with same creations again and again is too boring and monotonous. The whole planet dramatizing how bad or good it can get????? Who needs that?????
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Hi there, this is what the greater WE is attempting to disclose, the mechanisms with which the distortions are propagated and looped back, time and time again. It is a vital subject and one that it is my desire we can confront without all the BS (Belief Systems) running. I have been reading the thread, Hermit & Pluto Discuss the Abduction Phenomena, re-sounding with memories of a personal nature that are telling me something, too many coincidences, too many similarities ... something is emerging into our collaborative consciousness. I would like to focus on that.jiminii wrote:This old universe that keeps repeating itself with same creations again and again is too boring and monotonous. The whole planet dramatizing how bad or good it can get????? Who needs that????? jiminii
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I am wondering how you got this insight.jiminii wrote:All lifeforms, plants and animals etc, were originally created by a consciousness that is outside this universe. These are creator gods that use thought forms, (looks like ghost), to animate the lifeforms. Without thought forms there is no life. They are programed and given a personality like lion, dog, tree, fish and given a survival methodology to operate with and learn more with experience.
The animated force comes from source that was initiated by the creator gods and then put into automatic. Then usually one timeline from source runs the entire planet like Gaia. All the life forms and everything else like weather are controlled by this one timeline like Gaia.
There would be no creator gods, (orbs), running these thought forms normally because the planets were basically like doll houses for creator gods to play with, create new lifeforms and etc.
But as we had these pain factories in everyone creating endless chains of painful incidents, (minds, records of copies of experience), we got into real wars, not just doll house wars for fun, and we started trapping orbs in lifeforms on these electronically controlled prison planets.
So being stuck in human bodies is not a Natural phenomenon. It is a forced entrapment of orbs, (timelines created by creator gods).
We have solved the problem that created these trillions of years pain factories everyone is carrying around with them, by creating new orbs with this MIND removed, (natural clears).
If you are a Natural Clear, you are here to help change the future. You are not subject to karma that keeps you incarnating forever. When you die you can leave this place. There is no physical universe created mind, the electronic implant machines can attach to and trigger them back into the implant station wipe and alter their memories and incarnate them again.
If you are not a Natural Clear you would need training and processing to free yourself, or just hang around until your number pops up and you get a new orb that is a Natural Clear and then your free.
That is the only true freedom I know about coming from the future. And it is not depending on anything other than the game is solved and those in the future wants to evolve to a creation of a new universe, but we have to get everyone unstuck from this one before we can do it.
That is what we are doing. This old universe that keeps repeating itself with same creations again and again is too boring and monotonous. The whole planet dramatizing how bad or good it can get????? Who needs that?????
jiminii
As a narrative I'm finding it hard to wrap my head around. It sound like the words from that Ghost song.
"Since dawn of time the fate of man is that of lice
Equal as parasites and moving without eyes
A day of reckoning when penance is to burn"
I think you see glimmers of hope when Karma is cleared or your number is up to be a clear.
Still existing to be a thrown away doll in the corner of a doll house?
Even if there are such ignorant creatures with the powers to play like that. I find it hard to believe.
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lolol funny I thought this was a thread about our opinions with regards to Corey Goode.
Could someone please define proselytizing?
Could someone please define proselytizing?

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Proselytism /ˈprɒsəlᵻˌtɪzəm/ is the act of attempting to convert people to another religion or opinion. The word proselytize is derived from the Greek language
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Proselytism /ˈprɒsəlᵻˌtɪzəm/ is the act of attempting to convert people to another religion or opinion. The word proselytize is derived from the Greek language
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Re: Breaking silence on Corey Goode and asking for your honest assessments
It is my supposition on everything I learned in this lifetime. Could be right, could be wrong but doesn't matter.
We are creating the future as I speak so if everyone likes this idea then it can be created. If you'd like to put in some changes you can do that too.
I absolutely KNOW how powerful we are so I know this can be created even in this moment of time. If it goes into the physical universe as a new creation it will happen. I've already seen this happen many times in my life, so I know this can be done.
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We are creating the future as I speak so if everyone likes this idea then it can be created. If you'd like to put in some changes you can do that too.
I absolutely KNOW how powerful we are so I know this can be created even in this moment of time. If it goes into the physical universe as a new creation it will happen. I've already seen this happen many times in my life, so I know this can be done.
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But don't you think that these ideas would be better suited to their own thread? Just saying.
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I don't know. I can't remember where but i recently stated thet the trick would be to come up with a narrative everybody wants. So we can get enough momentum to have it come to fruition on this earth. what better thread for that than one filled with stories that have allready come some of the way.Hermit wrote:But don't you think that these ideas would be better suited to their own thread? Just saying.
I for one would opt for a narrative with a truly balanced idea which describes the human potential. One that sees forces for what they are without the need to personify these forces in man like entities with omnipotent powers no one can verify.
Instead of striving for god-hood or ascencion. A full and clear picture of that which is. even if that means wonder and mystery. A peacefull existence of I don't know.
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Like Karma. (doing my own Proselytizing here)
A fleece shirt was once a string of plastic possibly even in a few incarnations, was crude oil before that, was flora or fauna dead matter before that and was alive before that. Say this particular fleece shirt was an animal or a dinosaur many years ago. Do we see the shirt as the dinosaur it once was?
Same with our reincarnation or karmic "debt" I am different than the evil doer I was in the last life. And she was different from the goody two shows before that. The fact that some part of me holds a memory of that previous lifetime does not lead to the conclusion that person was me. It merely proves I hold a memory.. Which maybe a truthful memory, but as I stated before I doubt any memory is Truth.
This comes to what I know and what I don't know. I know a memory is there.. The rest I imagine and create.
The wonder is that I am alive, That I can be and think and do stuff. The mystery is fabulous even though many many days feel like greyed out continuations like the days before.
We know that we are being played by a rich elite that dumbs and numbs us down. Like sheep and slaves we are given this false sense of freedom which accounts to nothing. Even If there are evil entities behind this scheme, even if ET- races are standing by to aid us bound by useless agreements. In fact even if we are just discarded ragdoll experiments by some godlike entity with the power to create life. WHat does this knowledge do for us now but break our hearts and make us cry ourselves to sleep because we reflect on the state of the world at night.
I will be love where there is none. I will stand where people break down in violent fits when realisation hits. I will ask if I can hug them and lie. Tell them all will be ok so they can get some footing again. I may even crack a misplaced joke to lighten up the tension. Those are the things that matter. Not the narrative behind it all. Who the Fuck cares..
Well that brings me to my first reaction in this thread. The more I think about that the more i begin to find my truth in that statement.
I don't care for narratives. I care for the beings around me.
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A fleece shirt was once a string of plastic possibly even in a few incarnations, was crude oil before that, was flora or fauna dead matter before that and was alive before that. Say this particular fleece shirt was an animal or a dinosaur many years ago. Do we see the shirt as the dinosaur it once was?
Same with our reincarnation or karmic "debt" I am different than the evil doer I was in the last life. And she was different from the goody two shows before that. The fact that some part of me holds a memory of that previous lifetime does not lead to the conclusion that person was me. It merely proves I hold a memory.. Which maybe a truthful memory, but as I stated before I doubt any memory is Truth.
This comes to what I know and what I don't know. I know a memory is there.. The rest I imagine and create.
The wonder is that I am alive, That I can be and think and do stuff. The mystery is fabulous even though many many days feel like greyed out continuations like the days before.
We know that we are being played by a rich elite that dumbs and numbs us down. Like sheep and slaves we are given this false sense of freedom which accounts to nothing. Even If there are evil entities behind this scheme, even if ET- races are standing by to aid us bound by useless agreements. In fact even if we are just discarded ragdoll experiments by some godlike entity with the power to create life. WHat does this knowledge do for us now but break our hearts and make us cry ourselves to sleep because we reflect on the state of the world at night.
I will be love where there is none. I will stand where people break down in violent fits when realisation hits. I will ask if I can hug them and lie. Tell them all will be ok so they can get some footing again. I may even crack a misplaced joke to lighten up the tension. Those are the things that matter. Not the narrative behind it all. Who the Fuck cares..
Well that brings me to my first reaction in this thread. The more I think about that the more i begin to find my truth in that statement.
I don't care for narratives. I care for the beings around me.
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Re: Breaking silence on Corey Goode and asking for your honest assessments
Nice post eelco
I'm fascinated by narratives that capture the emotional attachment of others. In this particular arena, I'm really interested on how a seemingly semi-sensible, very intelligent, good writer...who established a solid respect in the community--decided to head first dive into a seemingly nonsensical story.
I also find the narrative of how the nonsense was boosted into the limelight by another interesting (and divisive) character in the first place.
I think the mindsets/personality in both are educational to explore. And perhaps even the mechanics of the latter may have solid lessons to reveal, given as objective an analysis as possible.
At some point the legions of believers would have to have hold the tellers accountable, you'd think, if only by no longer paying attention?
I'm fascinated by narratives that capture the emotional attachment of others. In this particular arena, I'm really interested on how a seemingly semi-sensible, very intelligent, good writer...who established a solid respect in the community--decided to head first dive into a seemingly nonsensical story.
I also find the narrative of how the nonsense was boosted into the limelight by another interesting (and divisive) character in the first place.
I think the mindsets/personality in both are educational to explore. And perhaps even the mechanics of the latter may have solid lessons to reveal, given as objective an analysis as possible.
At some point the legions of believers would have to have hold the tellers accountable, you'd think, if only by no longer paying attention?
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