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The Rebirth of the Hippies

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:33 am
by Cristian
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“That was my problem with the whole thing,” says Joe. “There’s no growth for people if they’re continuously on drugs. It started out with all this higher thinking—expanding your mind to become more conscious of what’s really going on in the universe. But once the drugs took over, all of those big ideas disappeared.”


The Death of the Hippies


The photographer Joe Samberg remembers how drugs destroyed the Telegraph Avenue scene.

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“What I find really interesting about this picture is the people standing on the sidelines,” says Joe. “The guy on the right, with the Dutchboy haircut, is trying to be a peacemaker. Then you go all the way to the left, and you see this guy in a tie-dyed shirt just kind of like, ‘Ho hum, this is interesting,’ smoking his cigarette. Then there are the three black girls holding onto each other, really pulling for the black guy, Archie, to win. And then there’s one of the young white girls, Vanessa—the thing that seems to fascinate her is how the black girls are so anxious about the fight. Archie did win the fight, incidentally, but really, both of these guys just sort of collapsed from fatigue.” (Joe Samberg)

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Left: Kids walk up the steps of the “Telegraph Hilton,” a run-down boarding house above a clothing store called Rag Theater. Right: Two guys trip together on the curbside. “My dad sent me $200 a month, which I used to pay rent for an apartment my brothers and I shared. I managed to eat for almost nothing. There were places where you could get rice plates for a dollar, and a lot of days, one of those was all I ate.” (Joe Samberg



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“You see these kids drinking Southern Comfort? Those two bottles appeared and disappeared in what couldn’t have been more than two minutes. These kids were 13, maybe 14. But they just consumed anything that would come their way.” (Joe Samberg)


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Left: A Christlike figure perches on a garbage can. Right: A top-hat-wearing local character called Groovy (since deceased) parades down the avenue with some of his many friends. “There was still this spark of an idea of a new society, a better way to live. But all of that was on the decline.” (Joe Samberg)



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Protesters tear down the chain link fence surrounding People’s Park. “In our house, there were always socialist publications lying around,” says Joe. “I read them all and I understood it all. I just never really believed in it to the same extent as the rest of my family.” (Joe Samberg)


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Over time, Joe says he watched “mind-expanding” drugs give way to more and more heroin. “I never had the wherewithal to be a full-fledged drug addict,” says Joe. “I never had enough money. And I was never willing to sell my camera.” (Joe Samberg)

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Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 11:33 am
by Eelco
Same old same old.
I've started re reading herman hesse's journey to the east this morning.
It was written in 1932 i think?
My own
goal for the journey, about which the President questioned me before my
acceptance into the League, was a simple one, but many members of the
League had set themselves goals which, although I respected, I could not
fully understand. For example, one of them was a treasure-seeker and he
thought of nothing else but of winning a great treasure which he called
"Tao." Still another had conceived the idea of capturing a certain snake to
which he attributed magical powers and which he called Kundalini. My own
journey and life-goal, which had colored my dreams since my late boyhood,
was to see the beautiful Princess Fatima and, if possible, to win her love.
At the time that I had the good fortune to join the League -- that is,
immediately after the end of the World War -- our country was full of
saviors, prophets, and disciples, of presentiments about the end of the
world, or hopes for the dawn of a Third Empire. Shattered by the war, in
despair as a result of deprivation and hunger, greatly disillusioned by the
seeming futility of all the sacrifices in blood and goods, our people at that
time were lured by many phantoms, but there were also many real spiritual
advances. There were Bacchanalian dance societies and Anabaptist groups,
there was one thing after another that seemed to point to what was
wonderful and beyond the veil. There was also at that time a widespread
leaning towards Indian, ancient Persian and other Eastern mysteries and
religions, and all this gave most people the impression that our ancient
League was one of the many newly-blossomed cults, and that after a few
years it would also be partly forgotten, despised and decried. The faithful
amongst its disciples cannot dispute this.
http://api.ning.com/files/YijHkktwzjCuq ... nHesse.pdf

WIth Love
Eelco

Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 3:50 pm
by Naga_Fireball
Was it Sinbad the sailor who encountered the land of the lotus eaters, or was that Jason and the Argonauts?

Many snares in the spiritual warrior's path, many traps for the unwary explorer.

He who walks the unknown road opens himself to strange fates :(

Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:27 pm
by Cristian
looking in people's minds...wow...interesting mixed feelings ...yes I know it was about something else...

<---silent

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Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 4:50 pm
by Christine
*searching for the time to write, from me it would be a sort of memoir having lived through that era. Maybe as Eelco says, same ol' same ol' ... though something so deeply moves in me as to say; not any more, not on our watch, not in our name! ... the times they are a changin'.

The birth of the Hippie Spirit was real, then the shadow took front stage so we could earn our stripes ... Wisdom comes through experience, via survival, via Love ... Long Live the Hippie in me. :)

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Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:42 pm
by Old Wolf
The hippies were a road sign, a wave of incarnation. Yes there was great beauty but it was always destined to end. I know I missed it while racing to arrive, but so many of us did. That's why we're all here concurrently now, we're chasing an idea. The idea isn't a resurrection of the hippies and looking back to that won't help because it wasn't complete, wasn't right.

Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 1:15 am
by Christine
To garner knowledge from the past seems to be part of our current trajectory, what the hippies attempted was innocent, futile and easily misdirected.

Interesting choice of words, "chasing an idea", I honestly wonder what you are conveying with them. The movement wasn't complete, we were hardly prepared to meet the enemy that methodically decimated any chance of success. Perhaps looking back at what happen, just as we look back to ancient cultures that hold keys we will find some much needed wisdom.

Innocence, such a cherished quality... one to be protected as we protect our sacred inner flower child, yes ... we were doomed to fail for then we knew not what we know now, and so the road goes on. The inner me is a hippie rebel to her core, she would do it all over again, oh! she is.

As simple as the message was then it is still the same today...

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Old Wolf wrote:The hippies were a road sign, a wave of incarnation. Yes there was great beauty but it was always destined to end. I know I missed it while racing to arrive, but so many of us did. That's why we're all here concurrently now, we're chasing an idea. The idea isn't a resurrection of the hippies and looking back to that won't help because it wasn't complete, wasn't right.

Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 3:42 am
by Old Wolf
Christine wrote:Interesting choice of words, "chasing an idea", I honestly wonder what you are conveying with them.
Poor choice of words, chasing a feeling is probably better. I won't get into detail but I was in the Astral between lives when I felt the whole 60's thing happening. I tried to rush to reincarnate but arrived after it ended. It's likely that I wasn't alone in that experience.

Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 6:22 am
by norman
I was a little bit too young to be a mainstream hippy generation, but I spent a lot of time at places where the hippy thing was evolving slowly to where it went, at least here in the UK.

I quickly realised that the great minds were rare and usually not around. For the most part it was costume drama for the mainly unthinking "scene" hobbyists, who were like "Civil War reenactors" turning up at every event and always well clad with the costumes, etc.

With these people, the whole idea was missed and they came up with their own silly reasons for doing the stuff they did. In a few short years, it had completely degenerated down to the same old silly role playing and community stereotypes as had been around before it all happened, back in the 50s.

Also, I found that conversation with these people was pretty low level stuff, and felt just like talking to the local village people back home, but more crazy illogical mind bent pathetic nonsense.

As far as I can tell, the middle level minds of the era drifted off to the cities to make their millions in the financial sectors. I don't think I ever really met or communicated with an original intelligent "hippy" who actually had a clue what it was all about.

I wouldn't completely blame drugs for the way it went. I think the numerical dynamics of the follower crowd of costume hippies is what really 'done it'.

Re: The Death of the Hippies

Posted: Thu Mar 03, 2016 11:39 am
by Old Wolf
norman wrote:Also, I found that conversation with these people was pretty low level stuff, and felt just like talking to the local village people back home, but more crazy illogical mind bent pathetic nonsense.
I know exactly what you mean. Yet I'm sure they were a loving and open bunch. The mind is easily led, there's very few people capable of original thought.