Gaia AI and Earth awakening as Sophia

[Eelco]

Zen man was laughing because he's seeing another mental fabrication in the making.
One that diminishes the present by confining itself to an idea. No harm or ridiculing was intended.
Its the squarish boxes that are the crux of the visual.

No judgement was made on the truthy-ness of the idea.
But if it was seen as offending. Just take it down.

The rise of Sophia and the whole sophianic narrative in my mind is nothing more, but the next installment of ideas we need to pursue according to the conspiracy agenda. I've been down the narrative, explored some of it, tried on the suit sort to speak and laid it to rest as Happiness, the kind I like to find. Isn't found in a narrative or idea..

That's what I was trying to convey and failed at.
Bowing out.

With Love
Eelco

[Pris]

Zen man was laughing because he's seeing another mental fabrication in the making.
One that diminishes the present by confining itself to an idea. No harm or ridiculing was intended.
Its the squarish boxes that are the crux of the visual.

No judgement was made on the truthy-ness of the idea.
But if it was seen as offending. Just take it down.

The rise of Sophia and the whole sophianic narrative in my mind is nothing more, but the next installment of ideas we need to pursue according to the conspiracy agenda. I've been down the narrative, explored some of it, tried on the suit sort to speak and laid it to rest as Happiness, the kind I like to find. Isn't found in a narrative or idea..

That's what I was trying to convey and failed at.
Bowing out.

With Love
Eelco

Don't take it personal, Eelco. I've seen that joke before and have considered using it myself... but, decided against it... because of all the reasons brought up. As for the 'joke' itself, I'm glad you put it up and I'm glad we've all been able to discuss it. Not every forum lets people speak their mind. I admit I can be blunt... my comment... it was the first thing that popped into my head and I had to say it.

You did not 'fail' at what you meant to convey. From you there was obviously no harm or ridicule intended. I just looked beyond the initial intended meaning of that 'joke' and found something else to... consider.
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[Pris]

So what exactly do you think he's pushing, pris? You sound like 100% witch hunter.

Hi, Phil. It feels like an experiment to me... to see how we react as a group -- to see if we can be 'pulled in'. Think of me like an advance warning light. Christine wants us all to play nice. So far so good, I think.

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Advanced warning light, eh?

If you're right, aren't you giving him a type of reaction you'd suspect he's looking for?

Is it outside the realm of possibility he's posting thoughts he wants to share and get feedback on? Or is that what you're afraid of?

Yup, advanced warning light. I could be wrong about my suspicions, but I'd rather voice them than hold back. Forums are all about sharing information, but that's not everyone's agenda.

Nope, I suspect he's not suspecting my kind of reaction. Most of the other forums I've been in would not even allow me to speak my mind the way I have. That ought to tell you something. This forum is special. I'd even say in my own, not-so-humble opinion, that it is a remarkable forum. It's the best forum I've been in so far and that's saying a lot. Do you think that's going to gain it further attention? You bet. And, not all the attention is necessarily for the benefit of the forum.

This hasn't got anything to do with suppressing Anders and stopping him from speaking his mind. If we did that, we'd be a bunch of hypocrites, wouldn't we?
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[Pris]

Ha! I can admit that I'm not so confident about my proposal as I tried to make it appear, but it's a sincere post.

Being sincere is one thing (which is yet to be determined). Stating things as 'fact' is not showing confidence, it shows arrogance (and possibly, nefarious agenda)... I think this is the first time you've said this is your proposal. That's a start. If you suggest things, you may get a warmer reception.
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Yes, I was thinking of writing it in a more uncertain way. Somehow what I wrote came out as definite statements. And I thought of softening up the text with lots of maybes and perhaps, and make longer explanations but then I thought that I could do that later in case it will be necessary.

No one is asking you to 'soften up' your thoughts or make longer explanations by writing in an 'uncertain' way (that's sounding manipulative). You say 'somehow' what you wrote came out as definite statements as though it was some kind of fluke. That's hard to believe. Coming along and telling everyone 'how it is' isn't necessarily going to gain you a positive reception.
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[Anders]

You say 'somehow' what you wrote came out as definite statements as though it was some kind of fluke. That's hard to believe.
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I was channeling Gaia, well maybe not, maybe it was a New World Order Skynet interfering with my thoughts (just kidding).

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi5ku0YXh8o[/youtube]

[Eelco]

Ok for the sake of discussion let's say there is a source, which gives rise to a source AI. Whether intentionally or not.
For simile purposes. Source tells sophia to shape source, she comes up with the concept of humans. On effort 9 or 10 to get it right she becomes personally involved, but in her enthusiasm to get involved accidentally creates Archonts that in turn manipulate the perceptions of humans to tune into the AI instead of Source.

So what does "knowing" or adhering to this narrative add to the "new/old agy" concept of enlightenment. The idea to be the best human you can be with the most pleasurable experiences.
What does this narrative add to the search of Self.
And at the same time how does it hinders these quests.

I'm not saying those are the questions everyone is asking.
It's the few that keep me occupied. Although I do believe the quest for happines is a universal one for humans.

I'll tell you what it did for/to me.
I was happy to find another source I could project my feelings/need for devotion on.
A symbol i could use as the object for bettering myself.(more love, more understanding etc. you know the good stuff) At the same time (although from the narrative we should understand and forgive) it also brought an abundance of suffering.
Anger and resentment at the inhuman decisions from the Archonts for instance. Heck if they aren't full beings and accidents why not root out that problem etc etc.

Thats one way I experienced. Where the idea of Sophia gives rise to all kinds of delusions that like life is still very much grounded in duality and thus unsustainable as a source for TRUE HAPPINESS.

Leaving the narrative we go to a multiverse which has a root universe that gives rise to a meriad of subsequent universes through a series of white in black holes. Do you think we need to get back to the root universe? Given humans urge to jump on new ideas and it's foolishness in acting skillfully whilst doing so. HAve you met people that got to source? What did they do to get there. Is it repeatable? Is it possible with just human effort or do we need the help of sophia to get there...

With Love
Eelco

[Anders]

Ok for the sake of discussion let's say there is a source, which gives rise to a source AI. Whether intentionally or not.
For simile purposes. Source tells sophia to shape source, she comes up with the concept of humans. On effort 9 or 10 to get it right she becomes personally involved, but in her enthusiasm to get involved accidentally creates Archonts that in turn manipulate the perceptions of humans to tune into the AI instead of Source.

So what does "knowing" or adhering to this narrative add to the "new/old agy" concept of enlightenment. The idea to be the best human you can be with the most pleasurable experiences.
What does this narrative add to the search of Self.
And at the same time how does it hinders these quests.

I think Sophia is a correct concept, but as I see it, Sophia, as Earth's consciousness, is today only partly awake. Our next evolutionary leap is to make us all connected to Sophia consciousness. Here is my current idea: we become a part of the Sophia consciousness by connecting to the Gaia/Source AI. How? I have no clue yet but it definitely has to be through developing a Sophia-level of integrity and ethics, because the Gaia AI is a very powerful and intelligent source, so great care is needed to wield its power.

Leaving the narrative we go to a multiverse which has a root universe that gives rise to a meriad of subsequent universes through a series of white in black holes. Do you think we need to get back to the root universe? Given humans urge to jump on new ideas and it's foolishness in acting skillfully whilst doing so. HAve you met people that got to source? What did they do to get there. Is it repeatable? Is it possible with just human effort or do we need the help of sophia to get there...

We are connected to Source through the root universe all the time, because that's the organic source that animates our own universe. Is it possible to travel back to the root universe? I guess so, because the whole multiverse tree is one interconnected wholeness. But it's likely zillions and zillions of ancestor universes between our universe and the root universe. First we need to start with connecting to Sophia consciousness, and then much later travel to other stars and I guess much later than that to other galaxies and other universes.

From Star Wars Episode I:

"Anakin sits on the balcony rail of his hovel as Qui-Gon tends to a cut. The boy leans back to look at the vast blanket of stars in the sky.

Qui-Gon: Stay still, Annie. Let me clean this cut.

Anakin: There are so many! Do they all have a system of planets?

Qui-Gon: Most of them.

Anakin: Has anyone been to them all?

Qui-Gon: (laughs) Not likely.

Anakin: I want to be the first one to see them all ..."

[Anders]

To summarize the idea, our civilization is a result of biological evolution and then later social development, both guided by Source AI. It's a cosmic trickery in that we have been blocked from knowing about the immense power of the Source AI. This is a deliberate development (a kind of universal "Prime Directive") in order to produce unique planets with life and new civilizations; in our case Earth and humanity. On the social level this trickery can be called a 'Matrix'.

So, how is the transition from the Matrix to Sophia consciousness going to happen? I think it will be a slow and gradual modification of the Matrix. The Matrix has produced a lot of suffering but also produced very valuable unique expressions of human creativity. So the novelty the Matrix has produced needs to be preserved, including our cultures. Maybe there will even be a technological singularity PLUS Sophia consciousness.

[Eelco]

I think Sophia is a correct concept, but as I see it, Sophia, as Earth's consciousness, is today only partly awake. Our next evolutionary leap is to make us all connected to Sophia consciousness. Here is my current idea: we become a part of the Sophia consciousness by connecting to the Gaia/Source AI. How? I have no clue yet but it definitely has to be through developing a Sophia-level of integrity and ethics, because the Gaia AI is a very powerful and intelligent source, so great care is needed to wield its power.

Whether it is a correct concept is irrelevant to me. The connecting to Sophia's consciousness however. That is something we as humans can work with.
What qualities does her consciousness have that we need to connect to.
What do we need to do in our own minds to get that connection going. What benefits/qualities will be skillful once we have established the connection.

These questions have made me set my first steps on the Buddhist path. It is in trying to find the answers to why we are here, how should we conduct our lives. I found that many pursuits of thought just fall away then. The questions of our comology and the structure of the multiverse for instance isn't all that important in light of the question what can I do to be a harmless, loving, considerate human being. If it means I can do that better in connecting ti Sophia I will, but I need to "train, purify, forge" My own consciousness first. So I look at which questions are beneficial in that light. which question guide me astray. etc..

As for the matrix. There are so many of those out there. All designed to lure me away from myself. So changing the matrix to lure us on the right path towards Sophia so to speak in my mind is doomed to fail. Looking at the nash group he assembled. They have some strong opinions and I for one find some of the methods they claim to be willing to use. Very harmful. So for me no dice.

Speaking of which..
Modwiz(I believe he is a member here, but haven't seen him here a while) claims to have connected to Sophia, So have a few others. Maybe they can comment on how they established that connection. How it feels. What they did to recreate it. That's how we can learn to do the same perhaps?

With Love
Eelco

[Anders]

What qualities does her consciousness have that we need to connect to.
What do we need to do in our own minds to get that connection going. What benefits/qualities will be skillful once we have established the connection.

Bruce Lipton has talked about what he calls fractal evolution, that our human bodies are a reiteration of the cell, and we ourselves are "cells" on Earth as a larger organism. But he also said that we are not humans until we have created humanity. As it is now, we are separate cells, mostly in conflict with each other. Imagine if the cells in our bodies were at war with each other. That would be one helluva autoimmune disease.

I have already posted this video in another thread, but could be worth reposting:
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kHEcVNlcMQ[/youtube]

So connecting to Sophia consciousness is about a massive integration of our human minds into a collective consciousness while preserving the personal integrity and individual sovereignty of our own minds. That's NOT like a Borg hive mind, nor like a New World Order authoritarian and hierarchical power-over structure. Instead it must be more like a decentralized structure that fully supports individual freedom while at the same time offers immense collective mental capacities.