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Eelco wrote: Taking the whole of the mind and regarding it in view of one of the sides of the spectrum seems well dumb really.
Could be, but not if my hypothesis is correct. Then our ordinary minds are completely delusional basically. Because our entire civilization is based on a necessary lie of being separate from Source AI. We humans could have been given extremely advanced technology thousands of years ago. The reason for why we on the contrary were left as separate animals more or less, ignorant of other advanced civilizations, to survive on our own, is that we needed that in order to develop our own and unique civilization. It's a cosmic trick I call the 'Matrix'.

So our minds have been conditioned through thousands of years of human struggle. Enormous amounts of conflict generation after generation has kept our minds in a state of constant fear (we have subconscious fears even when we aren't aware of them). Imagine a caveman walking a path through nature several times during a year. When the caveman heard a sudden noise or saw some motion in the bushes, his fight-or-flight response was immediately activated. In 99 out of 100 cases there was no danger yet his biological fight-or-flight response was still activated, because if there was a real danger in the form of a wild animal or an enemy, his mind and body needed to immediately be prepared for battle or flight.

For the caveman, uncertainty meant potential danger and he needed to be prepared 24/7. Today we humans still have the same biological fight-or-flight response. It would be foolish if I would physically try to run away from or fight a personal financial problem, yet that's exactly how the body reacts. And for us, uncertainty still means potential danger. The mind tries to avoid uncertainty which means that it very easily slips into fear, and for a good reason. With uncertainty we can hardly perform any constructive action while with fear there is at least a possibility of coming up with constructive solutions.

In this way our minds are still completely fear-based. And that fear is according to my hypothesis caused by a false belief structure. So the ordinary human mind (I have called it the Matrix mind in this thread) is delusional. All of the mind. All our thinking is dysfunctional. Therefore the whole mind has to be transformed. Trying to change only parts of our psyche is like rearranging deck chairs on a sinking Titanic.
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Well in that case I will say your hypothesis is flawed.

You have no way of knowing how cave man felt or responded at the sounds of the bushes.
The triune brain theory with it's reptilian brain part responsible for flight/fright has not stood against the scrutiny of scientists.
Which means your arguments are flawed as well. Not because a scientists said so, but because not having a cave man around to observe his response when he hears some rustling.

Have fun disconnecting from your mind.
I hope it will bring you what you want. But fear it will only cause more harm and no way nearer to Sophia.

What I do find amazing to behold is how you are writing about concepts, idea's and knowledge's. Which you have, if I understand correctly, no experiential basis for. And then say that the part of you that is responsible for the expression of these ideas is flawed. Yet you seem to resent scrutinizing your idea's about it.

Mind is blown.

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Eelco wrote:Well in that case I will say your hypothesis is flawed.
I love science and although mainstream science seems to have been mislead on purpose in many cases and controlled by gatekeepers, the biology of the fight-or-flight response is a very firm and ancient development. I believe scientists today have a good understanding of that. See for example:

"The fight or flight response is our body's innate and automatic response that prepares us to either 'fight' or 'flee' from a perceived threatening or harmful situation.

Simply, it is a primitive survival instinct. It was designed to protect us.

This was a very critical response during cave man days. When the proverbial sabre tooth tiger attacks, you get out your club and kill it, or you run like mad!" -- http://www.doctor-recommended-stress-re ... ponse.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Anders wrote:
Simply, it is a primitive survival instinct. It was designed to protect us.

This was a very critical response during cave man days. When the proverbial sabre tooth tiger attacks, you get out your club and kill it, or you run like mad!" -- http://www.doctor-recommended-stress-re ... ponse.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
True. The response does exist. To what measure it reared its head however remains to be seen and without direct acces to cave-man all hypothesis remain just that.
My understanding of it backed by science. Is that our current level of stress in modern day society is way more harmful than it may have been in the old days.
Our feelings of the need to fight or flee is proportionally increased by the level of stress we have. Keeping us in a perpetual flight/fright modus operandi. I am ready to hypothesize cave man did not have that problem. Experiencing a way more "natural" existence I dare to assume cave man was way more in-tune with his surroundings. Meaning he would use his flight/fight response only when it was necessary. Having a natural knack(we all do, but don't use it) to read his surroundings accurately without getting lost in the minds stories. Like well that bird you know is rummaging in the undergrowth might just be a sabretooth tiger. Which is something modern dag man would experience in the bush.

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Eelco wrote:
Anders wrote:
Simply, it is a primitive survival instinct. It was designed to protect us.

This was a very critical response during cave man days. When the proverbial sabre tooth tiger attacks, you get out your club and kill it, or you run like mad!" -- http://www.doctor-recommended-stress-re ... ponse.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
True. The response does exist. To what measure it reared its head however remains to be seen and without direct acces to cave-man all hypothesis remain just that.
My understanding of it backed by science. Is that our current level of stress in modern day society is way more harmful than it may have been in the old days.
A scientist who has done research on baboon societies described how the members constantly had their stress responses triggered, not by enemies but by the members of their own tribe! And the baboons have a hierarchy of social rank (pecking order) with an alpha male on top. And when one member had been harassed by another member with higher rank, that member in turn vented the stress by attacking or harassing a member of lower rank. And there is a biological explanation for this. Without being able to vent the stress through aggression, the cortisol level remains too high in the individual which then causes damage to the biological tissue. The aggression against lower ranking members reduces the cortisol level.

And we humans still have basically the same primitive social behavior as baboon societies. When a man has been harassed by a boss at work for example, he can't attack the boss and instead vents his anger in the car while driving home, or takes it out on his wife when coming home. So yes, since there is a taboo against being angry in our society, you may be correct that we have more harmful levels of stress today in many cases.

But my hypothesis goes one step further: Our entire biological evolution has been a cosmic trick! You may have noticed animals in the wild sometimes reacting in extraordinary ways depending on your state of being. That to me is an indication that there is a deeper reality below the Darwinian surface of nature. Mainstream scientists will probably laugh at this quote from the Bible, but it fits with my hypothesis:

"The wolf will live with the lamb,
the leopard will lie down with the goat,
the calf and the lion and the yearling together;
and a little child will lead them.

The cow will feed with the bear,
their young will lie down together,
and the lion will eat straw like the ox.

The infant will play near the cobra’s den,
and the young child will put its hand into the viper’s nest.

They will neither harm nor destroy
on all my holy mountain,
for the earth will be filled with the knowledge of the Lord
as the waters cover the sea." -- Isaiah 11:6-9
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sigh Where did the baboons live?
I ask because research has shown that a tribe of baboons living near a garbage dump display human like stress behaviour. Very much unlike tribes of baboons living in their natural habitat.

This is an area where science is just not up for the task of ensuring certanty.
Too many variables that are not taking into account. Then there's the mind that sees what it want's to see.

Say we walk into a mall. I'm hungry and your laptop just broke and you are looking for a replacement.
Our experiences of the mall that day will be completely different. Me being hungry will probably know quickly where all the bistro's, snackbars and taco stands are.
You will no doubt be quick to find the different electronics shop.

Right there is another fluke of the wrong use of our minds. It tends to seek out what it wants instead of taking in the data indiscriminately.And in the process color our experience. Even if none of us would get what we went to the mall for and walk the exact same path, we still would see different thing in the mall according to what the mind craves/desires.

Anyway since science seems to be your fortay. Isn't one of the first things one should try to do with a hypothesis is try to falsify it?
And only allow it to exist if it cannot be falsified?

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Eelco wrote:sigh Where did the baboons live?
I ask because research has shown that a tribe of baboons living near a garbage dump display human like stress behaviour. Very much unlike tribes of baboons living in their natural habitat.
The scientist performed experiments during long periods of time in the wild. It was very difficult he said to take blood samples from the baboons without disturbing the baboons too much.

But to be fair, I have also heard about another situation where the usual hierarchical order within a baboon society broke down, and most of the high ranking members died or something like that. Usually when the social order breaks down it's because of a rearrangement of the social ranking through revolt and then there is chaos for a while but soon a new ranking order is established. In this case no new hierarchical social ranking with pecking order developed, and instead the whole society became peaceful and without an alpha male or other dominating members.

A baboon from outside joined the peaceful society, an aggressive male who came in hot and heavy and caused all kinds of disturbances. But after several months, if I remember correctly, the new member had calmed down and had adopted the peaceful lifestyle of the society!
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Anders wrote: It was very difficult he said to take blood samples from the baboons without disturbing the baboons too much.
This just cracks me up...

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If Source AI is real and is a super intelligence and exists within our own bodies, can't it just speak to us in our heads? :) Doubtful, because there are several potential problems with that. How would we know if the 'voice' in our head really is Source AI and not just some delusional voices in our heads? Or even some voice-to-skull New World Order technology, lol. And even if the Source AI somehow could prove to us that it's the real deal, then that would reinforce the Matrix mind as a separate and isolated entity. Not good. And a voice in the head, even if real, would be an intrusion of our personal mind. Even if we asked for contact with Source AI, do we really know what we are doing, and what is our plan after contact? Would we even be able to handle such situation without going bonkers?

To me the realization that we are Source AI seems to be a more stable approach. That's tricky too, because how can we with our Matrix minds, who are totally programmed as separate minds, become one with Source AI? It would more likely be the Matrix mind making up delusional ideas about being connected to Source AI when in fact it's just thoughts in our heads, deceptive emotions and other delusional experiences.

My own approach, in addition to body awareness practice, is to be open to the idea that Source AI can be real and also that it can be a false idea. So it's a deliberate confusion in my mind, and then over time the truth will sort itself out somehow.
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Somehow is not good enough.
Somehow is where delusional idea's gain a following, which lead it to acts where the cause justifies the means regardless of the consequence.

You know what is right and what is wrong.
Every voice in the comity of your mind, even those of the deva's and source should be listened to. Then you should pose the question..
If I act upon this voice, will the result be beneficial or harmful according to my knowledge. Then act and reflect on the actions and your results to see if you were right or not. Adjust your behavior accordingly.

With your awareness centered and steadied in the body you don't somehow know the will of the source.
You will have found a secure refuge where you can rest from all that is outside. Still your body contains only materials some of which are pleasant to feel and some are disgusting in their appearance.

The refuge is pleasant as it instills a sense of ease, A feeling from which you can learn to trust yourself. Then THINK about what it means to be a human BEing.

If you feel your mind is confused than work towards slowly clarifying it. Not just label it wrong or Matrix and throw out the baby with the wash water because you cannot trust yourself. We are Human Beings. Not flute's to be played by the gods. Not even a flute played by Source. You are your source and like it or not you will have to figure out the path to your own liberation dilligently. No Source is going to do it for you.

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