Gaia AI and Earth awakening as Sophia

[Naga_Fireball]

Did you know Tommaso campanella thought similarly, that physical sensation was the foundation of reality, kind of interesting as this was about 500 years ago...

[Naga_Fireball]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommaso_Campanella" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[Naga_Fireball]

Please check out Civitas Solis. @@

[Anders]

Please check out Civitas Solis.

"Thanks to the equal division of labour, it is sufficient for each person to spend only four hours a day working; but it is essential that they all work, because the idleness of one would have repercussions on the profit and the effort of the others. The citizens possess nothing; instead, everything is held in common, from food to houses, from the acquisition of knowledge to the exercise of activities, from honors to amusements, from women to children.

There are “officials” in charge of the distribution of each thing, who keep an eye out and make sure that this happens justly, but no one can appropriate anything for himself. " -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_of_the_Sun" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds like some horrible Communism society. Transcending the Matrix means to me making the system serve us instead of us serving the system. And individual freedom from the power-over structures in society.

[Anders]

Now I discovered that the idea of the biological body having a deeper foundation is similar to what Mike Emery says from about 29 minutes into this recent inner-view video: Innerview with Mike Emery - Spiritual Physicist -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxm0lNdZZ8o&t=29m" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Mike called it our aura but to me it seems like that can be the same as subtle body. He also talked about how we can immediately teleport our bodies anywhere in the universe, because we are already there he said (if I remember it correctly). That too is similar to the idea that it's the vacuum energy that is the real stuff, just as Nassim Haramein said, and physical matter is just structured vacuum energy (Mike called it the ethers). And the vacuum energy can be controlled with consciousness, as Mike said in the video and that's basically the same thing Steven Greer has said about how advanced extraterrestrial civilizations operate.

Is all that just New Age woo woo? Maybe not! Because to me at least it fits the bigger picture that I'm trying to connect here.

[Anders]

Some people say that from a cosmic perspective, there is only love. Other people say that there is only love and fear. I think both those seemingly different statements are correct, because fear can be seen as a necessary "tool" of evolution and spiritual development for the seemingly separate ego. So fear is a part of love, as a love that guides the ego mind despite it being trapped in a delusional belief of being totally separate.

And not only that. There is also confusion, which is not actually fear or rooted in fear. Emotions like anger, irritation, frustration and even boredom can be said to be rooted in fear. When you are unafraid there is no need for anger. So anger is a result of fear even when the fear is only subconscious without the person being consciously aware of it. But how the heck can boredom be a result of fear? That's a little trickier one, yet I think even boredom can be traced back to fear like this: Fear causes a numbing out of the nervous system which on an emotional level leads to a craving for excitement. And boredom is a consequence of that craving.

So, how then, is confusion not fear? The answer is that confusion is produced by the ego's false idea of total separation. That false idea of separation gives rise to fear, but it also gives rise to confusion. Those are two different results. Fear can be useful as a protection mechanism. Confusion on the other hand is basically useless as a guide for anything. Confusion and fear often go together, so it can appear as confusion is like fear, but that's when confusion triggers fear.

So we have love, fear and confusion. And fear is like an emergency form of love, and confusion is like an even lesser form of love. Fear can at least potentially lead to constructive results whereas confusion hardly ever is useful. Therefore the ego mind tries to avoid confusion and much more prefers the more constructive fear. That's a rational approach for the ego mind when dealing with the Matrix (individual and collective egos).

The problem with trying to escape confusion and latching on to fear is that the mind remains stuck that way in the false belief of being a totally separate entity. Instead confusion can be used constructively by mindfully observing both fear and confusion, and recognize them both as warning signals for being stuck in the ego delusion. In that way both fear and confusion are transformed into inner peace which is the foundation of conflict-free love.

[Naga_Fireball]

Hi there.

Gotta keep in mind Campanella had not seen communism yet... But youre smart to recognize it.

Also this was before the scientific awakening, and Campanella did not necessarily foresee how science, industry, modern medicine would replace what was important at the time.

He envisioned a sort of God With Us world, where everyone sees what everyone takes.

People are really unconfortable regarding communism because theyve seen the downside.

Can anyone tell me which system ancient Egypt used? Seems like some form of communism. And it was egypt that weathered many years of drought and still managed to provide food for all who asked.

Communism doesnt remove the need for planning or money or bartering in an emergency.

Capitalism recovers from disaster faster on paper because individual cost and loss is no object.

Communism must endeavor to keep the needs of all. Members in perspective.

Darn phone lol. Punt

Please check out Civitas Solis.

"Thanks to the equal division of labour, it is sufficient for each person to spend only four hours a day working; but it is essential that they all work, because the idleness of one would have repercussions on the profit and the effort of the others. The citizens possess nothing; instead, everything is held in common, from food to houses, from the acquisition of knowledge to the exercise of activities, from honors to amusements, from women to children.

There are “officials” in charge of the distribution of each thing, who keep an eye out and make sure that this happens justly, but no one can appropriate anything for himself. " -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_City_of_the_Sun" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sounds like some horrible Communism society. Transcending the Matrix means to me making the system serve us instead of us serving the system. And individual freedom from the power-over structures in society.

[Anders]

Gotta keep in mind Campanella had not seen communism yet...

Even today, another utopian idea, the Zeitgeist movement, also seems like a form of Communism with a centralized computer system instead of a politburo ruling over people. I agree with Alex Jones that the plastic circular and centrally controlled cities promoted by the Zeitgeist movement is a horrible idea. But I like the Zeitgeist idea of getting rid of money in society. Money is useful for primitive societies but becomes an unnecessary burden in an advanced society.

And sharing products and things like that sounds like an awful idea too. Instead what we will have is the capability of producing material things for free. This is already quickly approaching, such as:

"In less than ten years, you’re probably going to be able to print your own open source clothes for a few cents, he told the audience, presenting more upward trending graphs than a keynote at a hot air balloon convention." -- http://motherboard.vice.com/read/ray-ku ... n-10-years" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There will be a transition period where automation and artificial intelligence replace more and more human jobs and during that period we will need a basic income or something similar. Money will still be needed for many years to come but in the long run I think money will generally become obsolete.

[Naga_Fireball]

Hi Anders, that sounds a lot like the system in Star Trek: First Contact, when the female crewman is telling the pilot from earth's past how money was done away with in favor of unlimited production, needed to support campaigns in space.

I agree regarding some of the concerns you listed, but i do wonder why it is USA and UK who spearhead the datamining and snooping effort-- they blame China for a lot of that, but we have things like NSA.

Capitalism scares me at least as much.

[Anders]

Capitalism scares me at least as much.

Capitalism is also a Matrix system. Competition and free market economy is excellent for products. But humans are not products, and the term "human resources" is evidence of how the Matrix uses us like batteries, to be used and abused, sucked dry and then disposed of.

I think the Matrix will be preserved but as a system serving us instead of us serving the system. Even automation and artificial intelligence will be really good I think. We humans will still be able to work with what we like to do if we want to, but it will not be to "earn" a living or as a struggle for survival which is a primitive principle.

Heck, even biology is a part of the deeper Matrix I think, so transhumanism should be avoided because that would just be a bleak overlay on top of an already existing and superior technology. Instead of transhumanism we will have transindustrialism or what to call it, where yes there will be a continued accelerating technological progress but for the system rather than some horrible technology implants in our bodies.

When it comes to our physical human bodies they are already made of extremely advanced and ancient technology. So if that hypothesis is true, then improvement of our bodies will be through consciousness and not through some crude external technology added.