Planning Versus Reacting

[Naga_Fireball]

People interested in cultural evolution, and of course, ancient texts such as the Bible, inevitably stumble across the story (in various forms) of Cain and Abel. At least, I get hung up on that story, because it is tough to decipher all the subtle truths of who was in the wrong and why.

We have a very hot thread going on "Good vs Evil", so I wondered if we might try a different approach, to describe the variances in morality in simple terms of either preferring to plan, or to react.

Many of the ancient agrarian cultures employed sophisticated calendar tracking methods involving the celestial bodies.

It does seem, however, that prior to the need to do so, earth did experience a period of relatively effortless agriculture (Cain and Noah both observed this).

Humans did not necessarily see the need to plan ahead when earth conditions were amenable to easy farming.

Yet in the Bible, the genesis text suggests not only did these conditions change, the earth itself was programmed to resist the efforts of Cain and presumably his bloodline... No more would the ground yield up its herbs and even the stones would complain when Cain touched them, because " the blood of Abel cries out from the ground"...

This part of the storu raises questions for me, questions of causality (chicken/egg).

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It also raises questions about the evil system itself, the system of scarcity and terror in which we try to exist in our modern times.

If we were ruled by Abel's line, or even Seth's, doesn't it seem as if humans would strike some kind of natural, hopefully nonviolent balance? Yet our world is ruled by high bids and heavy handed barbarians and robber barons. Cainites.

Now, i realize there were fairly peaceful hunter gatherer cultures begore these Cainites reorganized into what we see today. It may not be fair to lump all hunters and killers into the same group.

But I do have to ask, why does our American culture, to use one example, live so hand to mouth, breath by breath, terror event to terror event, pure reaction and no planning on the part of the people.

Is life too easy in our country for us to respect the need for long term planning and solutions?

Can we honestly afford to gamble with the lives of millions and billions of people, like two Ill raised brothers perpetually duking it out?

I'm tempted to mention Isaac and Ishmael in the same context of planning vs no plan, care vs no care, and the result of human nature being shaped by the Wild rather than the heart...

[Naga_Fireball]

P.s. of course with better long term planners and moralists in our society, we wouldn't have dirty doctors or negligent child welfare @@

[Phil]

My "planning" is to train myself to try to have healthy, positive reactions. To not have as my "default" any (inevitable) reactions that are self-destructive...and to make sure I own it when I (inevitably) do, quickly and productively apologize and learn from them.

The accounts of Cain and Abel that I know have no clear implications of Cain's intent...it is simply framed in a way (whether genuinely, or somewhere down the line was distorted) to have us believe he was jealous/upset Yahweh didn't approve of his offering the way he did Abel's. To me that speaks to intent...it mattered to Yahweh WHY Cain was doing what he was doing, his intent...while what seemed to matter to Cain was the external perception of him and his offering.

To Cain (it seems, to me)--he thought that the ends should have justified the means, intention...and any form of morality...should not matter--hence his reaction. Maybe he was right...as thousands of years later, we are still living in that mindset, with our emotional attachment to the idea of what's "fair".

[Christine]

I am not sure the dichotomy of planning versus reacting goes far enough within human consciousness to reach the level of intimate Knowledge required to get True clarity on the path out of our present dilemma, a labyrinth as I view it. It is good to question everything however, all questions can lead us to answers we didn't know were there until they are discovered. Seems all the best laid plans of mice and men go array somehow, good question to ponder as to why that is.

We all react, can't get around that nut so I guess it is more a question of being able to choose the direction we send our own energy. For me reactions such as anger are usually welcomed for they point me in a clear direction of inquiry or action. Fortunately I have reached a stage where anger is a inner charge that has absolutely helped me in my own self realization and is not used to harm or get back at another, or prove "right", it is an energy to be directed to action to address any imbalance or acts of harm which I see being committed all the time around me. Both the conscious harm and unconscious agreements I am still participating in come into clearer view during a reaction.

I am rather chuckling and enjoying the Cain vs. Abel analogy, similar to Enki and Enlil, two eternal brothers duking it out! So what is the split? Obedience versus rebellion? Do as I say, not as I do morality? This comes closer, for me anyways, to describing the results of a split we all endure and are under the influences of ... call it evil, immoral, sick, degenerate, perverse or simply see it for what it is and the affects it has on so many lives, which is undeniable. We live in a world of rulers and masters and "they" have enslaved the majority of humanity. Is it Yahweh, Allah. Saturn, the Cabal, the Zionists, AI or whatever arm of the system (octopus) that is currently in view?

Somewhere along our journey we must come to the realization that our reality is an agreed upon one, fed to us through religion and politics, not to mention the media's complicity. All funneling human consciousness into a single point of choice. Slave or Freeman-woman? So "we" are given a choice, obey or rebel. On some great evolutionary scale the only choice for me is rebellion, I have lived, experienced and re-tried obedience (got lots of current life review along those lines and found the dead end of that type of obedience to god.)

So back to planning versus reacting ... there is a third choice the one left out in all dichotomies and that is surrender (NOT obedience!) to Natural Law and abundance, the one thing "they" and ourselves have yet to experience in all the awe and wonder SHE created for us. What happens in surrender is that the universal doors of flow from source open freely, free energy!

There is then no need for master, ruler or structure in the way we currently view it... frankly speaking our minds simply haven't broken free enough to allow for an expansion in consciousness that can IMAGINE a world without borders, without a hierarchy, "A hierarchy (from the Greek ἱεραρχία hierarchia, "rule of a high priest", from ἱεράρχης hierarkhes, "leader of sacred rites") is an arrangement of items (objects, names, values, categories, etc.) in which the items are represented as being "above," "below," or "at the same level as" one another."

Deep within us are limits we self-impose. We still assign power to others. This is a tough one to wrestle with, sovereignty can only be obtained as an individual it cannot be bestowed upon one or a group nor will it magically happen through some ritual, it must be assumed within the Self as Acts of Response Ability.

[Naga_Fireball]

Hi there

Well regarding Cain and Abel. It wasnt so much how they were living but how they were thinking.

Abel was interactive and loving, a good shepherd. He gathered flocks and cared for the helpless. Abel was the first true animal husbandry expert in the bible and a seemingly selfless and presumably empathic boy.

Cain lived more like a keeper of vineyards. He did just enough work to jumpstart the natural process of growth and nurture. He didn't "move on" from the misfortune of Eden in the way his brothers did.

Sort of like a kid who doesnt successfully leave the nest without some kind of trauma. Cain clearly thought he was getting some kind of inheritance. Killing his brother to remove competition for Gods favor rather than interacting/caring/discoveri g/knowing.

It is pretty obvious to me which of the three brothers had the most influence in America.
This country could feed the world but too busy killing it.

/drama