Hi friends, for me I think the #1 issue on PA is the intolerance toward individual dissent coupled with their tolerance for corporate/agency stalkers & shills, ie those who prey on the public fear and attempt to trigger and panic the leaders of dissent.
The tolerance for these creepy, corporate, fakely for profit fly by night bullies and hackers is my number one reason for believing that place is no good for me personally.
Sad because it was a huge group and either BR doesn't mind losing good members to professional trolls, or they blackmailed him too.
The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
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Re: The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
Brotherhood falls asunder at the touch of fire!
He finds his fellow guilty of a skin
Not coloured like his own, and having power
To enforce the wrong, for such a worthy cause
Dooms and devotes him as his lawful prey.
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He finds his fellow guilty of a skin
Not coloured like his own, and having power
To enforce the wrong, for such a worthy cause
Dooms and devotes him as his lawful prey.
~William Cowper
Re: The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
Thanks for the heads-up, Phil. I wasn't aware of that "LHR" Thread, and only wish I had seen it on the Main Board in the day.Phil wrote:
[....snip]
The "truth" about that BR wants people to know about the "spiritual beliefs" of the character he portrays online are all on a long thread I think our very own jiminii started back in the day. He called it "LRH" which Bill expanded to make it clear to us wogs (if anyone could kindly post a link to it, it may have value...I can't as PA is blocked as a "malicious website" by my firewall here at work)...it goes on for pages and pages showing a reasonable, moderate belief in the "purest forms" of LRon's tech and writing.
[....snip]
Here's the link you asked for:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthr ... post672934" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Dear friends, a magazine at checkstand claimed that Tom Cruise is giving up Scientology for love.
I hope it works out for him and if he gets harassed I hope he puts some nails in their coffin for them.
I hope it works out for him and if he gets harassed I hope he puts some nails in their coffin for them.
Brotherhood falls asunder at the touch of fire!
He finds his fellow guilty of a skin
Not coloured like his own, and having power
To enforce the wrong, for such a worthy cause
Dooms and devotes him as his lawful prey.
~William Cowper
He finds his fellow guilty of a skin
Not coloured like his own, and having power
To enforce the wrong, for such a worthy cause
Dooms and devotes him as his lawful prey.
~William Cowper
Re: The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
They gave me a private forum called source mission. I have to approve anyone to the mods to allow them access.
I still use it because a lot of interesting stuff has come up from someone in Mexico who ran Scientology down there.
There is too much to write to bring it all here. We are talking about coming from the future. When I listened to Alex Collier on Internet radio September 11 2012 he said this period of time has already happened. 900 years in the future the entire Galaxy was taken over with mind control created on this planet at this period of time.
That's when I woke up. I was audited by a class 12 auditor that was off loaded from Flag Service Org and is now in freezone.
This was done 2 years before Alex said this period of time has already happened. While I was on PA someone contacted me from Ron's org and I asked him about going completely out of the physical universe to a complete void and re-entered in the physical universe about 700 AD. Then completely out of the physical universe again to the void and back to my body. I asked him what was it. He said it is some OT, (operating Thetan person capable of God !Ike abilities), level which is OT 20 in Ron's org. It is the ability to out of the body to source itself and back in the body at another time period.
That happened the first time I was audited by a class 8 auditor in 1973 before Ron's org was even created. The CofS never allowed me to be audited again after that. I had all the abilities Ron's org deliver and already proved I could do them before Ron's org existing.
The auditing we asked this class 12 auditor to do on me was on LRH's time track of Theta tapes. These are commands on the tapes to locate your other timelines. LRH said on those tapes a thetan could have 20 or more other timelines he/she is running in other bodies on the planet and off. He audited me to find all my other timelines. These auditing commands were never delivered in Scientology, but we're on the tapes. The class 12 auditor never did this process before. The class 12 auditor dated when I came into this body. It was when this body was dying at 4 years 7 months old about February 1950. This body was born 1945.
That blew open more in me than anything else in this life time. I got home later and layed down and asked, "who am I " and the word Maitreya come to me and I was flooded with white light for a long time, the most beautiful powerful light ever and suddenly I jumped up and went to the Internet and found inelia Benz on PA and her story is similar to mine. This is my first time in this physical universe. I was created right out of source. The auditor couldn't take me in a past life because there was nothing there. This timeline is created new with no past to look. The meter was reading something that came from one of my other timelines. So I had to go to source and go back in time on my other timelines time track to answer the question.
After this when I was on PA and the person from Ron's org contacted me he said the ability to go in and out of time is called superstatic rundown. Then some entity come inside me and wanted to deliver a message. The message came in words in my head.
The words were that LRH asked David Miscaverige to drop his body in a way he can leave the planet and escape the force fields around the planet and go back to galactic central and report the illegal take over of the Governments of the planet by aliens. The aliens from 900 years in the future sent sleeper children into the upper management to take over Scientology from inside. This means the upper management have minds controlled by aliens. LRH ordered DM to get all the children out of upper management and to prevent any OT level tech from getting to the aliens and going to the future. Bill Ryan kept me on PA because he was psychic attacked by reptilians from 900 years in the future. His mods wanted to kick me off PA. That's why he made a Q and A about Scientology
The sleeper children let in the FBI to takeover the çhurch. My friend was OT6 and went to Flag Service Org and told me they knew Scientology was taken over by the cabal but their attitude was, "it's just another game."
To be continued .
jiminii
I still use it because a lot of interesting stuff has come up from someone in Mexico who ran Scientology down there.
There is too much to write to bring it all here. We are talking about coming from the future. When I listened to Alex Collier on Internet radio September 11 2012 he said this period of time has already happened. 900 years in the future the entire Galaxy was taken over with mind control created on this planet at this period of time.
That's when I woke up. I was audited by a class 12 auditor that was off loaded from Flag Service Org and is now in freezone.
This was done 2 years before Alex said this period of time has already happened. While I was on PA someone contacted me from Ron's org and I asked him about going completely out of the physical universe to a complete void and re-entered in the physical universe about 700 AD. Then completely out of the physical universe again to the void and back to my body. I asked him what was it. He said it is some OT, (operating Thetan person capable of God !Ike abilities), level which is OT 20 in Ron's org. It is the ability to out of the body to source itself and back in the body at another time period.
That happened the first time I was audited by a class 8 auditor in 1973 before Ron's org was even created. The CofS never allowed me to be audited again after that. I had all the abilities Ron's org deliver and already proved I could do them before Ron's org existing.
The auditing we asked this class 12 auditor to do on me was on LRH's time track of Theta tapes. These are commands on the tapes to locate your other timelines. LRH said on those tapes a thetan could have 20 or more other timelines he/she is running in other bodies on the planet and off. He audited me to find all my other timelines. These auditing commands were never delivered in Scientology, but we're on the tapes. The class 12 auditor never did this process before. The class 12 auditor dated when I came into this body. It was when this body was dying at 4 years 7 months old about February 1950. This body was born 1945.
That blew open more in me than anything else in this life time. I got home later and layed down and asked, "who am I " and the word Maitreya come to me and I was flooded with white light for a long time, the most beautiful powerful light ever and suddenly I jumped up and went to the Internet and found inelia Benz on PA and her story is similar to mine. This is my first time in this physical universe. I was created right out of source. The auditor couldn't take me in a past life because there was nothing there. This timeline is created new with no past to look. The meter was reading something that came from one of my other timelines. So I had to go to source and go back in time on my other timelines time track to answer the question.
After this when I was on PA and the person from Ron's org contacted me he said the ability to go in and out of time is called superstatic rundown. Then some entity come inside me and wanted to deliver a message. The message came in words in my head.
The words were that LRH asked David Miscaverige to drop his body in a way he can leave the planet and escape the force fields around the planet and go back to galactic central and report the illegal take over of the Governments of the planet by aliens. The aliens from 900 years in the future sent sleeper children into the upper management to take over Scientology from inside. This means the upper management have minds controlled by aliens. LRH ordered DM to get all the children out of upper management and to prevent any OT level tech from getting to the aliens and going to the future. Bill Ryan kept me on PA because he was psychic attacked by reptilians from 900 years in the future. His mods wanted to kick me off PA. That's why he made a Q and A about Scientology
The sleeper children let in the FBI to takeover the çhurch. My friend was OT6 and went to Flag Service Org and told me they knew Scientology was taken over by the cabal but their attitude was, "it's just another game."
To be continued .
jiminii
Re: The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
You prevented the future reptilians from harming him?Bill Ryan kept me on PA because he was psychic attacked by reptilians from 900 years in the future. His mods wanted to kick me off PA. That's why he made a Q and A about Scientology
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Might I ask you, jiminii, what is the purpose for your presence here at EE? (Borrowing from Phil.)
Do not fashion me a maiden who needs saving from the dragons. I am the Dragon. And I will eat you whole.
Re: The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard
Ah, thanks.
If I understand you correctly: where the others who were not scientologists didn't
There was more than one scientologist mod at that time? Herve wasn't a mod back then, if I remember correctly...I thought he was the only one that was into it?
If I understand you correctly: where the others who were not scientologists didn't
There was more than one scientologist mod at that time? Herve wasn't a mod back then, if I remember correctly...I thought he was the only one that was into it?
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Interesting coincidence Phil, I finally watched the HBO documentary on LRH, Going Clear: Scientology and the Prison of Belief last night. What a bizarre twisted tale and if anyone in the supposed free zone hasn't seen it they should.
The thing that I see is this: LRH was an extremely disturbed yet brilliant man, his defenders, blinded by the OT levels, the mythology he created, and their own arrogance that they are here to "save the planet" are both inside and outside the church structure. If they were able to move through their own programming they would see that indeed they are subjects of the very same deceptive mind control they fight as outside themselves. They like to claim that LRH was attacked heavily by Xenu and outsiders that wanted to destroy him, as an excuse for his "excesses". Easily forgetting his aberrations, the abuse of the women in his life, his disdain for the body, his egomania and demagoguery. For some reason they excuse it all?
I will state again what I have in the past, I found value in auditing, ironically it was fundamental for me to unravel my own encounter with the Mandato and mind control (the Mandato used the same, though more subtle tactics that LRH used). There was a clip where Ronnie-boy was frothing on about how important scientlology was and how one had to dive into life to rub shoulders with all men to know life. He states that he visited what he called "primitive" people all over the world ... um? Actually gave me pause because I have noted for quite some time now that "auditing" as coined by LRH is a practice used by indigenous people in many parts of the world. As I just said yesterday on the Corey thread, I stand by the knowable fact that active listening without judgement is key to helping another unravel his/ her own story and experiences. However for that to occur one has to not only feel safe but be safe AND be dealing with an ethical person, quite obviously Ron's use of the term ethics had one meaning for those under his orders and another for himself and the elite of the church.
In my experience outside the church, (and for the record again I never was a scientologist, had an aversion to the whole philosophy and actively challenged BR, jiminii and others on their BELIEF SYSTEM), I saw the same dynamics operating, the demagoguery and elitist secretive stance that only those who have gone up the bridge are able to combat the enemy, and indeed only they know reality. Seeing the uselessness of fighting that belief, for built in to it is the forged idea that anyone who challenges El-Ron or the Tech is in Xenu's camp and seen as an enemy. My only real choice was to leave the scene, claim myself as sovereign and gratefully take what I learned.
And the question you ask Phil, there were no scientologists as mods then. There are others on the forum, I am pretty sure they have written about their affiliation with LRH's philosophy.
I could say much more, perhaps I shall.
The thing that I see is this: LRH was an extremely disturbed yet brilliant man, his defenders, blinded by the OT levels, the mythology he created, and their own arrogance that they are here to "save the planet" are both inside and outside the church structure. If they were able to move through their own programming they would see that indeed they are subjects of the very same deceptive mind control they fight as outside themselves. They like to claim that LRH was attacked heavily by Xenu and outsiders that wanted to destroy him, as an excuse for his "excesses". Easily forgetting his aberrations, the abuse of the women in his life, his disdain for the body, his egomania and demagoguery. For some reason they excuse it all?
I will state again what I have in the past, I found value in auditing, ironically it was fundamental for me to unravel my own encounter with the Mandato and mind control (the Mandato used the same, though more subtle tactics that LRH used). There was a clip where Ronnie-boy was frothing on about how important scientlology was and how one had to dive into life to rub shoulders with all men to know life. He states that he visited what he called "primitive" people all over the world ... um? Actually gave me pause because I have noted for quite some time now that "auditing" as coined by LRH is a practice used by indigenous people in many parts of the world. As I just said yesterday on the Corey thread, I stand by the knowable fact that active listening without judgement is key to helping another unravel his/ her own story and experiences. However for that to occur one has to not only feel safe but be safe AND be dealing with an ethical person, quite obviously Ron's use of the term ethics had one meaning for those under his orders and another for himself and the elite of the church.
In my experience outside the church, (and for the record again I never was a scientologist, had an aversion to the whole philosophy and actively challenged BR, jiminii and others on their BELIEF SYSTEM), I saw the same dynamics operating, the demagoguery and elitist secretive stance that only those who have gone up the bridge are able to combat the enemy, and indeed only they know reality. Seeing the uselessness of fighting that belief, for built in to it is the forged idea that anyone who challenges El-Ron or the Tech is in Xenu's camp and seen as an enemy. My only real choice was to leave the scene, claim myself as sovereign and gratefully take what I learned.
And the question you ask Phil, there were no scientologists as mods then. There are others on the forum, I am pretty sure they have written about their affiliation with LRH's philosophy.
I could say much more, perhaps I shall.
Phil wrote:Ah, thanks.
If I understand you correctly: where the others who were not scientologists didn't
There was more than one scientologist mod at that time? Herve wasn't a mod back then, if I remember correctly...I thought he was the only one that was into it?

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I saw that to only to see this on RT two days ago, apparently Tom Cruise is putting 10M into the project.Naga_Fireball wrote:Dear friends, a magazine at checkstand claimed that Tom Cruise is giving up Scientology for love.
I hope it works out for him and if he gets harassed I hope he puts some nails in their coffin for them.


http://www.breitbart.com/big-hollywood/ ... hollywood/

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