The truth of LRH L. Ron Hubbard

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jiminii wrote:The situation was like this. With the old orbs they had physical universe copies of experience , 25 copies a second for trillions of years. Along with all the copies includes all the painful copies too. These copies constantly impinge pain on the being and body and pulls his emotional level down.

We located all these other old orbs from this time period I had on and off planet, then suddenly a million more showed up. These million are the new orbs created in the future right out of source. We didn't locate them so it is possible they could be placed in any time period for whatever reason they would be used for.

If the other biig beings did the same we would have hundreds of millions repairing major incidents on the time track. The difference being the orbs have no past memories to pull them down. They don't have a recording system either. They can't be implanted with false data and lies because they operate off knowing. Knowing comes from the static source that is outside the physical universe so it can't be altered.

This scenario takes all the aberrations that would be created by the old memory system out of this scenario and leaves the being with unlimited free theta. So the vibrations coming off them would align all the aberrationed theta and turn it into free theta.

The basic knowingness of all these free beings, (Native State Natural Clears), would be infinite. Of course in a body you do not have free access to this knowingness, but it's there. The only requirement is to get outside the body and look.

So it doesn't matter if the being is aware or not, the free theta from his beingness will raise the vibrations of the planet.

The only thing I don't know is how many have incarnated and are on the planet.

I remember when someone contacted me from Ron's org that during the private messages we were sending each other, I found myself looking at Ron's org through his eyes. It was so fast I couldn't catch all the perceptions. Then I realized the entity from the future was using me to connect to the being in Ron's org to see what was going on in their operation. So when you said that there was another LRH at Ron's org I suddenly realized why I was able to connect to him and see too. He is probably another timelines of mine/LRH/Maitreya so the connection was easy to do.

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There's the detail. The body absorbs or dampens the knowingness of the being, including the natural crears native state beings. So, remember the gray being that you say took you to a UFO before you entered Scientology? His trick might have been just stick you to the body, or make you unable to exteriorize voluntarily. So, Book 1 DMSMH remains a "owner's manual" for beings here. (Hope this statement doesn't gets me hated in here).

I was reading Christine's post on Corey Goode. I didn't know what had happened in PA, and I only was aware of the Corey Goode story through Michael Salla articles. All this is amazing. Christine in my opinion is in the front seats fighting tyranny in this solar system and galaxy. You are right, she's like a dragon.
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That's what I get about PA. It seems BR doesn't want it solved. It threatens the game game he is playing. That's why he pulled me off PAs main forum. He even told me it was his website and it seemed me being there would cost him all his members running away, so he put me in a sub forum. Actually Christine would know more about it than me. She was a leading player and mod there. I got the feeling he did the same to her because he couldn't have another dragon there completing with him. I kept all my stuff there because at least I would have a place to keep all my data. The thing is I don't know what he was doing with Ron's org there. When someone contacted me from Ron's org and I made the theta connection from future to Ron's org through him and could see the entire operation flashing before my eyes, somehow they discovered we were there and suddenly they cut off the theta line. I think I with the being from the future scared the life out them or we missed their withholds.

This could explain why I am out here and no one has invited me into their camp. So it was no problem for me. I proved out all the OT levels Ron's org had by actually doing them at CofS. So now both camps know this and what I just wrote here in the last few posts would destroy their game because it returns power to all the native state entities on the planet who will not get acknowledgement for what they are.

Everyone talks about LRH working in all these places of intelligence, but they don't get it and can see it. You're looking at a lot of LRHs scattered everywhere on the planet including 10 of them that were working in the ship. So each place is just other pieces of the game that he operated in and keep all these groups from discovering each other.

But now I can reveal the story since we've completed most of what we need to do to handle the planet. It is now time to bring all the pieces together, who is doing what.

This is a huge game, even Bob didn't want what we talked about going to the main forum he was afraid of all the attacks. He would only add his part in the sub forum.

But I think Christine can keep it clean here. It might be the best place to connect all the pieces.

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Hi jiminii,

I did only a few months of chat with Bob. He asked members not to screenshot it, lmao.

But he told me he was not into Scientology when i asked. It was an innocent question, not judgment, was just asking him
BR came up only a couple times and to me it seemed Bob either disliked BR or was fishing for folks out to get Bill.

Unfortunately I thought this was in poor form. But altho I told the moderators about the dissing, they kept him on and there are plenty Bon threads with bill thanks and many bill threads with Bob thanks.


So the enmity was faked and the non fakers left wondering why they bothered pretending to dislike.


In a pm convo between bill and me regarding Bob , jiminii and David michael were mentioned . bill and mods were worried about Bob taking liberties with people who had been through trauma or were interested in this cos stuff.


Just a heads up to be careful with those two, jim
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jiminii wrote:That's what I get about PA. It seems BR doesn't want it solved. It threatens the game game he is playing. That's why he pulled me off PAs main forum. He even told me it was his website and it seemed me being there would cost him all his members running away, so he put me in a sub forum. Actually Christine would know more about it than me. She was a leading player and mod there. I got the feeling he did the same to her because he couldn't have another dragon there completing with him. I kept all my stuff there because at least I would have a place to keep all my data.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

The thing is you were moving the forum there with posts that were going to be active for years to come. And it put the "wogs" (a person not wanting to go awake) more active than any other thread. Lol. (Wog is a derogatory therm now nearly forbidden in most forums, but that is scientologese).

I can no longer post in the open forums at PA, because of my post about Scientology.

A member of PA sent a PM and wanted to know if there are scientologists at PA.

Yes, you have your data there, but it's a secret sub-forum and you need BR's approval to access it. I would say it might be a secret subforum but has more new interesting and to the point posts than the general chat:

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jiminii wrote:The thing is I don't know what he was doing with Ron's org there. When someone contacted me from Ron's org and I made the theta connection from future to Ron's org through him and could see the entire operation flashing before my eyes, somehow they discovered we were there and suddenly they cut off the theta line. I think I with the being from the future scared the life out them or we missed their withholds.

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I don't understand clearly this. Was BR having Ron's Org at PA? And you and the being from the future were seeing (through the eyes of the Ron's Org member at PA) the operation at Ron's Org?

If there are withholds you were missing, you know the data. They are going to be after you. Until you pull them out or they write them down.

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jiminii wrote: This could explain why I am out here and no one has invited me into their camp.
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Sorry, couldn't help it...
So it was no problem for me. I proved out all the OT levels Ron's org had by actually doing them at CofS. So now both camps know this and what I just wrote here in the last few posts would destroy their game because it returns power to all the native state entities on the planet who will not get acknowledgement for what they are.

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I could only recommend that a third party investigation be performed first. At CoS, Ron's Org and Project Avalon.

Millions of native state thetans on the planet unacknowledged for what they are? That unacknowledgement could have started with Miscavige in the early 80's or LRH.

Note: I also know a person taking OT levels at Ron's Org. The person told me that a woman with his followers at Ron's Org (I am not sure if it's Ron's Org or Freezone in Europe) is crazy. Really crazy. That's for sure a case for investigation.
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Thanks you two, I appreciate the comments and I do plan on posting as soon as time gives me a break. Love this:

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cuitlahuac wrote:
jiminii wrote:The thing is I don't know what he was doing with Ron's org there. When someone contacted me from Ron's org and I made the theta connection from future to Ron's org through him and could see the entire operation flashing before my eyes, somehow they discovered we were there and suddenly they cut off the theta line. I think I with the being from the future scared the life out them or we missed their withholds.

jiminii
I don't understand clearly this. Was BR having Ron's Org at PA? And you and the being from the future were seeing (through the eyes of the Ron's Org member at PA) the operation at Ron's Org?

If there are withholds you were missing, you know the data. They are going to be after you. Until you pull them out or they write them down.

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I got a PM from someone who was from Ron's org. He claims he has done superstatic rundown at Ron's org.

I asked him if a being went completely out of the physical universe to a complete void and re-entered the physical universe in another time then what would that be. He said that is superstatic rundown. Able to leave this physical universe and enter into any other time period.

It happened to me when the class 8 auditor was doing integrity processing on me and asked me a question that would take me into a past life. The past life of this orb I'm running is blank, because this orb was created new right out of the source, like inelia Benz, but the meter was reading an incident on one of my timelines. I had to go out of this physical universe to source and re-enter in my other timelines track to erase the incident.

Then this entity enter my space and started putting words in my head that LRH ordered DM, David Miscabage, to drop his body in a process that would allow him to escape the force fields of the planet and go to galactic central and report the illegal take over of the Governments on the planet from unfriendly aliens. I told him on the PM and also said sleeper children were sent to INT international Org to grow up and take over Scientology from inside the Org.

I said LRH had setup DM to drop his body and prevent any OT stuff getting to the cabal take over.
3 days later someone from Ron's org replied with one statement and no explanation this, "LRH setup DM".

So that is when I somehow got a Theta line to him that allowed me to see through his eyes their entire operation and this was being relayed to the being in the future that was connected to me. All kinds of data was being relayed on things I wasn't even aware of. It's because the being in me from the future wanted to see what was going on there. There was so much data running much too fast for this body's perceptions to see, but the being I AM was getting all of it. Then someone from Ron's org discovered what was happening and closed the Theta line.

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Well, I said I would write something up on the subject at hand. To do so I will talk a bit about my experiences with people inside of Ron's Org, being a moderator on PA and data from my sessions with a top auditor, who helped me untangle the knot of a major curse. Everything has two sides, so none of it is all bad nor all good.

Please dear reader, use your own discernment.

jiminii, you are good at making statements from your perceptual data as fact, I am assuming these are facts to you though from my knowing all data is subjective to the observer. Some of what you say will resonate, for most readers it won't. To believe your story lines one has to be working off of some scientology premises, which I believe are flawed and belong to the myth that LRH created. I don't doubt your experiences, as I do know you and have found there is a certain innocence that allows you to see beyond the confines most folks are captured within.

One is led by the myth of scientology a la Ron and others to believe that scientology has the keys to mankind's freedom. a) That scientology is the only [elite] group that holds these keys. b) That without the tech humanity will not make its break for freedom. c) That an auditor is necessary to release the mass (blockages) of accumulated incidents, this life and others, so a being can reach the state of clear and go beyond.

Scientologists use terminology like Wog (cuitlahuac, this term is extremely condescending in case you didn't know), Theta, missed withholds, by-pass, Xenu, comm, galactic patrol, central command, etc. that the uninitiated public has no cognition of. When enmeshed within this religiosity a person is unable to see outside of it, in other words they are wearing thick filters that they perceive as truth.

Scientologists, users and proponents of the above descriptors, inside and outside the church believe and are instructed to not share data from the upper levels because it would be too shocking and can cause harm for anyone who hasn't ascended [my emphasis]. This makes any discussion with an insider impossible because they can't talk about the upper levels; such as Games Master, Excalibur, Phoenix and so on.

Scientology is an extremely hierarchal belief system (BS) and its followers (please see Mark Passio's talk on order followers) will not criticize LRH or any of the supposed stellar commanders within the myth. If you criticize a man who, please listen here for I don't say this with judgement but as pure data, practiced black magic and learned mind control techniques, you will be ostracized, outed and called a squirrel, this derogatory term is still used within and outside the org.

LRH knew and practiced black magic, this is undeniable and well documented. I have had first hand conversations with a man who knew him and Jack Parson's. He related a ritual involving magic and sexual practices. LRH took much of what he spun into his religion from Aliester Crowley.

For the reader I will present my own knowing on this; Magic is the unseen 96% of reality, it operates on certain knowable truths or axioms, they are knowable because they are observable. Black magic uses this knowledge to manipulate this unseen field for reasons that are ego driven, be it from curiosity, greed, desire for fame, hunger for power or any other ego driven reason. Most people that I have met that use black magic, use it secretly to fulfill their egos, delighting in the fact that they know something others don't and can sell that knowledge to an audience or as is the case of the cabal use it to manipulate reality. [see my recounting in Tiger Tales on the forum, a piece of my own story within a cult.]

Back to LRH, I have said he was brilliant and many of his writings are, he was a madman really and there are things to be learned and even respected, but to swallow his line without full knowledge, to be forbidden to share what you know freely, to disrespect the body vessel, he was in error. And as any good magician knows and can see he obtained much of his formidable energy from his followers and adherents. This is an aberration and it is what took him down, not Xenu or I could say he let his dark side win, he wasn't able to hold both polarities in a harmonic whole within himself. Aside, the ability to do so [hold dual polarities within the one] is alchemical by nature and what I will talk about when speaking of dragons.

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I have much more to share and will do so if there is interest. It is always my desire to reach a point of balance and fairness when I see speculation run rampant about public personages. In relationship to PA and BR and the relationship with scientology. From my perspective there is no secret inside agenda to run the forum as a Ron's Org, at least the moderators had no intention or affiliation with scientology. [Other than Hervé] BR is quick to play down his relationship publicly, likes to haul out the "I am on the church's enemy list" badge whenever he can... etc. What I can and will say is that BR's personal philosophy about life, creation and his role as an adherent to LRH's myth is intact and runs him. He also had a 'secret' chat group, to my knowledge that is the only thing I never had access to, he down played it too. If I recall correctly his words were, "Oh, that is just a group of us that get together to talk about Ron's Org." Honestly I never pressed and didn't think much of it at the time.

And to be as fair as I can, whatever I know, see and feel about BR, scientology and others within the Org I see them first as human Beings, spirits incarnated in souls and a body, playing a game, to them it is a big game and they view themselves as BIG players. The reason I am speaking now is to shed light on distortions, the fields of distortion and how this is accomplished. More to come.

Thanks to everyone on ee ... it is my humble opinion that only by sharing FREELY can we ever claim to BE Free.

For the word smiths and noters: I bolded Sci, Org and Tech ... one questions the use of these words and what they imply.
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Christine wrote: jiminii, you are good at making statements from your perceptual data as fact, I am assuming these are facts to you though from my knowing all data is subjective to the observer. Some of what you say will resonate, for most readers it won't. To believe your story lines one has to be working off of some scientology premises, which I believe are flawed and belong to the myth that LRH created. I don't doubt your experiences, as I do know you and have found there is a certain innocence that allows you to see beyond the confines most folks are captured within.
Thanks a lot. First, thankfully this is no "healing environment turned into a triggered individuals going for each other's jugulars". That's a very great plus.

Jiminii's data (some of them stated to be deductions and suppositions) seem to me as emanating from knowingness. My deduction is that Jiminii's data resonates with almost all people and audiences, be them light or dark inclined. Because they emanate or are inspired from knowingness. Just like Inelia Benz's. But of course most individuals if they are asleep, will no react to the data instantly, but in the very bottom of them, they understand it.

And I'wd add that jiminii's data resonates then not only for scienos but for wogs too. His data resonates perhaps even more than LRH's Scientology or Ron's Org data. Perhaps because it comes from Scientology and Ron's Org in the future, where the data is more evolved as Jiminii has stated.

If Jiminii has some "certain innocence" that just confirms that he is as he states, a baby OT.

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