There are no forests on Flat Earth - Wake Up

[Eelco]

Here's a nice decoding on the official video.
I do like/resonate with some of her ponderings about us being really in hell instead of earth..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3asNnLc7w8o[/youtube]

Here's a follow up addressing some of the questions that the video has inspired.
Personally i think that instead of answering the questions she is trying to validate her own belief, but that's just me..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-LG5hoqakM[/youtube]

With Love
Eelco

[Eelco]

On a more personal note.
I see the information presented in the OP-video. Far fetched. other than visual similarities between the bases of tree stumps and old foto's against mountains and quarry's, no evidence seems to be presented. Now as a possibility? sure. I believe that all our imaginations can and maybe are reality in some form or another. This is not one I choose to manifest as real in my life..

Because even if it is reality. It will not aid me one iota to become a better man than I am now, nor will it aid loving kindness towards my fellow beings on this planet here and now. If anything it enlarges the rage I already posses against those that choose to rule over us..

[Christine]

Thanks for posting the newest videos, I haven't had a chance to watch them yet but will. When something hits me like the first video I try to stay with my initial feelings long enough to see where they take me, how my inner reality verifies or discards (for me) the view of another. I resonate with what he shared, ancient memories further stripping away overlaid realities, in that it serves.

You know, becoming a better man or woman for me is more closely aligned with unplugging from false beliefs and healing trauma, so if we are seeing the effects of a trauma so huge well then we have an opportunity to heal it. To heal one must first reveal the source of the trauma. What lingers in my mind is the question, "Who are they that 'choose' to rule over us, not just rule but rape and pillage us?"

All my ponderings and writings wind their way back to the Self, our unconscious consent to be here, the loss of our memory, the harvest of our souls through our own devices, the ones we have used to survive, all of it ... and then like a light in the dark the imagination is at play! Worlds within worlds open their doors and like Alice in Wonderland I am enchanted by the very nature of Life.

On a more personal note.
I see the information presented in the OP-video. Far fetched. other than visual similarities between the bases of tree stumps and old foto's against mountains and quarry's, no evidence seems to be presented. Now as a possibility? sure. I believe that all our imaginations can and maybe are reality in some form or another. This is not one I choose to manifest as real in my life..

Because even if it is reality. It will not aid me one iota to become a better man than I am now, nor will it aid loving kindness towards my fellow beings on this planet here and now. If anything it enlarges the rage I already posses against those that choose to rule over us..

[Phil]

My thought is that if there is validity to the giant tree theory, which I don't think is far fetched in a world where giant dinosaurs roamed millions of year ago...like in ALL "scientific" study...ya gotta "dig for the roots"...in this case, LITERALLY

I guess my issue with the conclusion is that the nature of the trees being intially silicon, or around less than 10k years ago (did I hear that right?)....I didn't see or understand his explanation of what "petrifies" wood...but I don't think it is hard to imagine (or conflicts with any of the rest of his theory) that after a bazillion years the nature of the material structure of wood can change....

I mean maybe I don't understand fossils or geology (or fossil fuels), but it seems to me that underneath the giant mesas/stumps there should be some similar characteristic discernible a "root system", maybe? Wouldn't this be easier to "research" than "flat earth"? If people get as riled up about this as some did about that...maybe we'll get some geological expeditions to find the roots of the youngest stumps? There's no ice wall or agents protecting them, right?

[norman]

.......I mean maybe I don't understand fossils or geology (or fossil fuels), but it seems to me that underneath the giant mesas/stumps there should be some similar characteristic discernible a "root system", maybe?
[ (my thoughts): I thought that, and that was when I realised it was time to step out of the theory zone, and see what else I could do with it ]

Wouldn't this be easier to "research" than "flat earth"?
[ (my thoughts): yes, but, wait, isn't that a waste of time and energy? ]

If people get as riled up about this as some did about that...

[ (my thoughts): oh heck, I hope not ]

maybe we'll get some geological expeditions to find the roots of the youngest stumps? There's no ice wall or agents protecting them, right?

[ (my thoughts): yea, right ]

The STUMPS were a joke, right?

I think the guy has a great adventurous eye. I feel a kinship with that.

I don't yet understand the origin and conditioning of my OWN adventurous eye. I have no idea about his. All I can do is watch and listen to his presentation, he seemingly does with a completely straight face. How straight it really is, is a less fascinating aspect of this than simply looking at some of the photographs he splurged up out of his hunter's fault, during what seems to me to be a high-functioning psychotic episode.

Either that, or he's doing something directly "under" a handler. I've not detected any hints yet that he's doing the later, but I'll go through the audio soon and have a careful listen.

If you are wondering why I'm being so absorbed in this, I'm developing a skillset around it as a little personal project here in my den.

[modwiz]

Here's a nice decoding on the official video.
I do like/resonate with some of her ponderings about us being really in hell instead of earth..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3asNnLc7w8o[/youtube]

Here's a follow up addressing some of the questions that the video has inspired.
Personally i think that instead of answering the questions she is trying to validate her own belief, but that's just me..
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-LG5hoqakM[/youtube]

With Love
Eelco

I watched the first one and started the second and saw it would be more of her ramblings with commentary. Do not find the woman an interesting speaker or informative. The first one still gives me tingles. Just in the consideration of it. My year long dedicated study of geology had me with some hardcore ideas about things but, my knowing of Horsetail and it coming from the same era as these trees might have made me ponder it. Still pondering because there are so many implications from tangential triggers that the video had a deep impact on me. I pick up on the ongoing violation of Gaia/Sophia that seems to have very ancient roots. Many scientific theories I learned in my academic studies are a lot more sieve-like if really thought about.

I have no reason for anyone else to take this seriously. It is a personal journey that I share with friends I speak to. Writing in a forum is far to impersonal for me. Conversing with avatars is a big fail for me.

[Eelco]

I have no reason for anyone else to take this seriously. It is a personal journey that I share with friends I speak to. Writing in a forum is far to impersonal for me. Conversing with avatars is a big fail for me.

I'm unsure whether i fall amongst the category of friends, or that I fall amongst the failing avatars.
Forums are impersonal yes, to me that's a win. It provides some disengagement from emotions entering the conversation.

That said.
I did some research on horsetail.
It reminds me of an insight I had years ago, where because of the decrease in size and the destruction (mining) of the world in comparison to days of old.

Given that natural structures including life are information, where did the information go after the diversity and size of life diminished?
With my trusty pendulum and days of clearing veils I got that where information used to be stored in one species. Say a large tree.

The information was divides amongst several species. Somehow the number 3 came up back then.
I had my search on a forum which sadly no longer exists, so I can't provide the exact line of questioning I followed back then.

Anyway in remembering this, the horsetail which grew to be as tall as trees back in the day would have held way more information that the herbs now.
Maybe a nice side quest to pursue? Finding which species co-created or held the information that once was horsetail.

With Love
Eelco

[Phil]

Here is one of my happy places:



Mt Bachelor, a ski mountain on the bottom of the cascade mountain range in Oregon.



The one on the right is Broken Top (the two on the left are 2 of the "Three Sisters", North Sister and Middle Sister, two mountains that DON'T look like tree stumps )...the geologists tell us that Bachelor is not a mountain at all, it is a pile of volcanic rock from the ancient eruption of Broken Top.

I always found that to be "fantastic", and wondered how many other "mountains" we're piles of lava.

I think it is neat to think about some of his ideas...definitely less a "joke" than the "flat earth" he pokes at (or is using in clever marketing hook). His story is the first, it will be refined over time, just like FE. The attention it has caught is almost identical (perhaps a bit refined/evolved?) to FE and Mandela Effect and black goo and archons and super soldiers and every other topic of the month promoted by the alt-media celeb flavor of the week.

Maybe there's nuggets of truth or worthwhile ideas or mindsets within...more likely disempowering ones? I find the dissemination of the information (and reaction to it) more interesting than any of the "facts" it provides, the hook being the far out concept...that should be easily hashed out by us "emotional mature" awakened folk with our keen discenment and ability to emotionally detach....but here we are

I've been finding EVERYTHING "new" presented in any media to be a lesson in enabling, in balancing our excusing "authority's" lies with "not throwing the baby out with the bath water". Thanks for your perspective Norman I appreciate and even can share it when I think about it...though I wonder if concluding it is a "joke" is as extreme as taking it at face value. Seems the "truth" is somewhere in between.

[Phil]

The thing that occurs to me when reflecting on this is how most of what makes someone an "alternative" believer is one or more of the following:

-history is mostly lies (except the stuff we like to believe and "feel good" about the source)
-economics is mostly lies
-politics is more lies than even the mainstream accepts
-the level of tech we are shown is a lie (secret space program, free energy exist)

...what this does is the same as what flat earth does...something that not even us "enlightened" or awake or open-minded or whatever we tell ourselves have a hard time dealing with: our science is mostly lies.

We accept it the way the mainstream does the way politics works. We think the institution in place is the BEST, cannot be changed and we cannot live without...and have very strong emotional attachment to it--until something that hits an emotional cord, that "resonates" challenges it...then we go as ape shit as a Trump supporter on Hillary (and vice versa)

Truth be told...our approach to history is close to this, and we should take lessons. The equivalent of this in the "history" realm is challenging the facts we're taught of the Nazi Holocaust. It makes me wonder what value there is in steering the beliefs away from what has become...for better or worse...the norm.

Best case scenario is that this "material" gets people thinking about their relationship with information. The ultimate "Truth" of this stuff...if there is any "truth" to it, even if just to those who "resonate" with it...is that BIG SCIENCE or whatever organizations and/or individuals that own/have access to "classified" and occulted and hidden information are lying to us (same conclusion as having a flat earth)...a Truth that we all should know by now. A fractal of the official Disclosure horseshit...we either have enough evidence to believe in _______ or we don't and never will...and we will be forever divided as long as there's an emotional charge on the subject.

So maybe the more interesting aspect is "why do we 'resonate' with this?"

How did it catch on so fast?

And the first thing we all should have dug for the second it did resonate or catch on...find out who the fuck the dude is that put it out, and to the best of best our ability, try to find out why.

[Christine]

Perhaps this video and I agree that staying with the original one is best for me, now at least, has opened a rather large part of my brain, previously not accessible. I have had feelings for over a month that something big was going to shift on how we view reality, this is different from the fear promoters doomsday prognostics, this is at such a fundamental level of perception that has a potential to put us in the driver's seat so to speak.

Deep inside us all is this primordial trauma, we have spiritualized and intellectualized it into all sorts of religions, belief systems and therapies without getting to the root (the metaphor seemingly appropriate) cause. The overwhelming reaction I had of grief when watching the first video told me that he had found a key of perception, I don't even feel like getting into a discussion on the scientific merits or lack of ... it goes deeper than that. Thre is a scream inside of me, I have heard it before and it wants to come out again. Like a screeching halt that resonates across all dimensions of time and space, it feels that big.

I am in free flow consciousness right now, pain ... enormous pain. I am speaking to friends, to all others who are on this cusp looking into the deepest abyss, the opening that has always been and some of us jumped in, some were drawn in. How do we confront this rape, pillage, wanton destruction, not some philosophized-away destruction, or that which is part of a natural cycle, wanton and cruel destruction, what is behind this? and why?

What belief do we currently hold, both negative and positive? What belief won't allow us to unplug from an entity that consumes and harvests us and our world, over and over again?

This video, opens doors of perception and shows us that the world is not how we are taught to see it, that is the importance of it.