My thoughts on the U.S. Presidential election

[Spiritwind]

I find it interesting, the U.S. Presidential election and subsequent inauguration that just took place yesterday. Not because I am political in anyway, either. It is interesting from multiple different angles, and the one that intrigues me the most is the reaction of the American people themselves. A fascinating study in and of itself. I have watched from the sidelines throughout this last year especially. For me, I knew over a year and a half ago it was most likely going to come down to this anyway, so any grieving, outrage, depression, anxiety, whatever, I felt, I've had a long time to process. For some, I see, this journey is just beginning.

I guess, I want to write about this, precisely because I don't see much real discussion going on about what this portends for us all, as the feelings and emotions engendered by this election are still running strong, and many are struggling to process the almost sense of trauma they feel. I can't quite figure this out myself, except that it makes our population here in this country I have been born and raised in appear almost bipolar in the extreme. It almost doesn't matter who gets elected if people can't get a handle on themselves and quit the blame game. For, in my mind, we are all complicit. This didn't just happen on some fluke. It happened because of our disconnect from reality, and our subsequent behaviors and response to our inability to handle the truth of our situation.

It's like seeing a leak in your house, that starts out small. It slowly gets worse over time, but you keep giving yourself endless reasons why it isn't the right time to investigate and fix the problem before it gets out of hand. You tell yourself, I don't know how to fix things like this, or I don't have the time, or, the favorite, I don't have the extra cash right now. Then one day, you wake up, and the roof is falling in on you and you discover you have black mold growing in the walls. No wonder you feel sick all the time and don't have the energy. And, somehow, this is someone else's fault?!

Yes, we have been bought and sold. But this couldn't happen if we didn't give in to the slavery we are currently being subjected to. You see, slavery is something that starts in the mind. They can kill us, torture us, imprison us, and even force us to perform labor to keep them in place, but you first become a slave in your mind. At the same time, out of the other hand, you begin to buy what they are selling. Yes, I know it's been a subtle drip drip drip kind of insidious takeover, but unless we begin to see how we aid and abet, it will not go away no matter who the people elect to govern them. And there it is, we bought the idea that we need to be governed in the first place. What a monumental lie.

I personally will not engage in any kind of a hate campaign, nor one driven out of fear of what horrible things may ensue from this. I remember being taken in by Barrack Obama back in the day, and thought I wasn't that easy to fool anymore. Big LOL at myself on that one. Not that even now I think he is a bad guy. My main point of contention with him is what he has done to undermine our constitutional rights that supposedly this country was founded on (even though I know even this story is not really as it seems, but that is for another time). We were never given a sufficient reason to justify this on any level. And, once again, these Draconian measures get traction because they play on our fears. And that's really it folks. Our fears are what drive us on the subconscious level, and so we get played, over and over again, just like Lucy and Charlie Brown. So, in a way, we do get what we ask for.

And its kind of funny, because my husband is a fairly astute kind of guy, and yet he came home raving about the speech that our president elect delivered and I've heard actually wrote himself. It was a great speech. But I've heard lots of great speeches now. And words are just words. And my biggest fear now, if I were to give voice to it, is not who was elected president, but the people who actually make up the population of this country. They are not informed of but a small part of the bigger picture. Even I don't see it all, but I know enough to know that my biggest enemy is myself, and my preconceived ideas and expectations based on those. Know thyself are wise words indeed. And the people, they are on edge, without a clear sense of focus. So easy to be manipulated in this state, and THAT is what worries me. No, I will pray for those in office, and I will pray for all the people of this country I live in, as well as the world at large, that we begin to see how our fears drive the narrative of what we experience. I know I have found this to be true on a personal level, and I tend to think this this applies on a larger scale. Time will tell, I guess. In the meantime, rather than get in a twit about it, I will relax and enjoy the popcorn, and, hopefully, when I really need to spring into action, I will be ready and know where my time and energy are most needed to bring about truly positive change that enhances the life choices and freedom for all life.

We really are all in this together. And there really is no us and them, there is only we, all 7 billion of us, the collective field we create based on the frequencies we generate and embody. It's a great day to be alive and it's sure to be quite the ride.

PS. I hope I don't piss anyone off too bad : )

[Naga_Fireball]

A huge hug for you.

Imo Trump is only half serious at times. He hides the fact he is constantly learning under those cheap jokes.

Underneath that mask I hope, trust, believe that there is a hard worker & honest man.

So huge ass grain of salt required, think of this president as the huge margarita we are all sharing tonight in USA (figuratively).

Not everyone likes salt but we drink from one glass.
It will be a hard year but i hope a good year. Of the ppl on this forum i bet Trump would like you Spiritwind because of your independence & prosperity spiritually off grid.

He would be mystified at the actual lvl of work in your average day yet the abundance of spirit you enjoy.

[Naga_Fireball]

Trump Bars All Refugees, and Citizens From 7 Muslim Nations
President Trump signed an order suspending the entry of refugees into the United States for 120 days, and Syrians indefinitely.
He also suspended immigration from seven Muslim nations, while ordering priority be given to visas for Christians from Muslim nations.

You were right

[Spiritwind]

Ok, so, I'm going to post the following article, not because I am in any way engaged in supporting any one in any position of authority in our current governing body. I am posting it to show, which I think it does, how you can pretty much put a spin on anything happening these days, to create the appearance of what looks and feels like a religion, a belief system, that supports your point of view. Growing up in a very controlled religious environment I know all about this concept. I was well indoctrinated as a Jehovah Witness, and a good friend of mine was likewise indoctrinated as a Mormon growing up. It was an endless circle, taking specific scriptures out of the bible to bolster and support ones view. If the other individual or group is clearly wrong in some areas, it doesn't make them wrong in all, and it also doesn't make the opposing camp right. The Hegelian dialectic so clearly at work, when you look at the framework behind the outer show. When we cling to any belief system, party affiliation, candidate for anything being "the one", we make ourselves vulnerable to manipulation. And we have given our power of being able to discern, which is an active and dynamic process, away. I only want to see what is true, and allow what is not fully seen to come more clearly into view. I can't do that if I've already made up my mind about everything, and think I know it all. Even though I've actually not been a fan of Donald Trump ever, in fact I remember being quite horrified when I found out that the race came down to him and Killary, I still want to see the bigger picture of what is going on. And what I see is how the people are being steered into positions against one another. That "either you're for me or against me" mentality's got to go. It's what has kept us bound in a state of eternal war, and I'm tired of war and death.

[Spiritwind]

The War Against Ordinary Americans

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The Saker is a level-headed person. I take it seriously when he spells out the threat to Trump’s presidency presented by the paradoxical alliance of the ruling oligarchs with what purports to be the “liberal/ progressive/ left.”

by Paul Craig Roberts

It is amazing that the “liberal/progressive/left” are aligned with war and not with peace and are aligned with the OnePercent against the working class, whom they despise as “Trump deplorables.”

The Saker believes that Trump is under serious threat of being overthrown and that he must strike first or go down.

As my readers are highly intelligent, I am not surprised that some of them have arrived at the same conclusion as The Saker. Here is what one had to say:

I am totally astounded by the madness – even at formerly reasonable left-liberal websites.

Alternet is one big hysteria factory. Although Counterpunch has had good articles by Mike Whitney, you (I presume, since I read your articles on your website), Diana Johnstone and a few others, I can’t believe how they’ve jumped in, too.

I’ve been reading CP since the beginning of the newsletter in the 90s. Until this year, they were (after yours) my go-to website when I turned the computer on.

I can’t believe they have a new article titled “Beyond Resistance – Defeating Trump’s Burgeoning Dictatorship”. And another: “Democracy in Exile and the Curse of Totalitarianism”.

And another: “Muslim Bans, White Supremacy and Fascism in Our Time”. Patrick Cockburn has an article titled: “Trump’s Muslim Ban Will Only Spark More Terrorist Attacks”.

Even the World Socialist Website has gone bananas.

Almost all of the German left-mainstream sites have gone insane. On the one hand, it seems like almost every protest group, in the end, has a source of money from Soros.

On the other, it seems like 40% of the population must have been put through an MK-Ultra program. How could such mass hysteria otherwise be produced?

This is the level of argument with which protesters oppose Trump’s presidency.

Readers share my amazement that there are large numbers of people so stupid as to think that a ban on Muslim immigrants is far worse than murdering Muslims in seven countries for fifteen years.

Bush and Obama conducted genocide against Muslims over the course of four presidential terms, and no protesters sought their impeachment for what are most certainly war crimes and crimes against humanity.

But Trump’s perfectly legal immigration action is alleged to be grounds for impeachment!

The protesters are completely nonsensical, so much so that it must be an orchestration.

As the protesting websites, if not all of the protesters in the streets, accept the 9/11 storyline and the hoax “war on terror” that the storyline justifies, it follows logically that Muslims, already “terrorists” by definition (just ask the neoconservatives and Israel), fleeing their death and destruction by Washington might harbor thoughts of harm to Americans.

Considering the ruling storyline, to let them in would be irresponsible.

But not to the protesters. It wasn’t the killing of their families and destruction of their homes and countries that might make Muslims into terrorists. It is banning them from entry as refugees that turns them into terrorists!

Try to imagine the absurdity of political leadership in the US and Europe during the 21st century.

Western governments inflicted so much death and destruction that they created millions of Muslim refugees in order to accept as immigrants peoples who might harbor thoughts of revenge.

Are we to conclude that there is no such thing in the US and Europe as a liberal/ progressive/ left, only Soros-funded protesters for hire, as in the orchestrated Maiden protests in Kiev and today in Macedonia and Hungary?

Correct or not, this is the conclusion of many.

Illegitimate protests discredit all protests. Could we be witnessing the ruling oligarchy using its pawns to discredit in advance valid protests at the time when they move to reassert their control?

An astute citizen of Hungary sees similarity between the protests against Trump in the US and the Soros-orchestrated protests against the government of Hungary:

Dear Dr. Roberts,

Being the citizen of Hungary, a country heavily infested by Soros-financed NGO’s, and with a government that is openly anti-Soros, it breaks my heart to see the USA in a situation very much like what we have had to put up with since 2010, the year when Viktor Orban won a two-thirds majority, which he won again in 2014.

Today, there is one piece of experience that is, I think, crucial for us, Hungarians, to share with the USA. It is this: nothing is sacred or too dear for Soros, his NGO’s and associates of all stripes in their fight for power.

This has been a concept quite hard to come to terms with for many of us in Hungary. They will sacrifice the country, the future, the people, they will sacrifice anything, just to (re-)gain power.

As I follow news from the USA, I see photos of crowds that appear to be filled with hatred.

They are like the (fortunately quite diminished) crowds paraded around by the Hungarian opposition parties, who like to call themselves “democratic” as opposed to the government elected to office by the people, which they refer to as “fascist, nazi, anti-democratic, anti-semitic” etc.

These crowds are the embodiment of hypocrisy. Chanting slogans of “love”, they act out of pure hatred, for power, and refuse to be reasoned with. They refuse to consider facts.

They call themselves liberals, but act against liberty through exercising total intolerance. I assume that the people who voted for President Trump are patriotic.

If my assumption is correct, this also means that it will take quite some time, until the reality sinks in that Soros, his NGO’s and allies will trample down, unhesitatingly, the nation and the empire that they seek to rule unchallenged.

This is because they do notrule for the people. They need the power to be in the position to exploit the nation and the empire, for their own benefit. This is not an easy thought to come to terms with for a patriot.

The sooner the US electorate understands this, the more resistant it can become against the propaganda campaign and high visibility demonstrations so happily covered by the mainstream media.

It is important to keep in mind that the room to maneuver President Trump has is directly proportionate to the popular supporthe enjoys, at any given time.

Dr. Roberts, thank you for all your valuable work invested into making the world a better – and safer – place, for the benefit of all Mankind.

Kind regards,
Anita

[Spiritwind]

A gentleman named Bill Howell eloquently wrote the below letter. (Borrowed from a friend's Facebook post)

Dear Mr. Trump,

It’s taken me a while to realize this and to admit it, but I’m grateful to you.

For the past few months I’ve spent a good deal of time lamenting your campaign and the poison it has so effortlessly generated. I’ve watched our country imploding, our public discourse become polluted, our political climate grows ever more corrosive, and wrongly assumed you were to blame.

It’s only lately I’ve come to understand that you haven’t manufactured our current national ugliness—you’ve simply revealed it.

By saying the irresponsible, mean-spirited, ignorant things you say so freely and so frequently, you’ve given other like-minded people license to do the same. You’ve opened up the floodgates for our corporate sewage to flow fully. People no longer conceal their vile mess, they now revel in it, they broadcast it and retweet it.

You’ve made bigotry and racism socially acceptable again and that has been a kind of twisted gift because it’s allowed me to really see people; not as they pretend to be on the surface—but in the very depths of their wounded, weaponized hearts.

Over and over as your campaign has persisted, your supporters would tell me that they like you because you “speak your mind”. It wasn’t until recently that I’ve realized that you speak their minds. You’ve given credence to their prejudices and made those prejudices go mainstream.

Thanks to the terrible ground you’ve broken, politicians, pastors, friends, and strangers, both in person and on social media now regularly out themselves as hateful, intolerant, and malicious—and they remind me just how close they are to me, just how deep the sickness in us runs, and just how far we have to go together.

You’ve emboldened people to be open about things they used to conceal for the sake of decorum, and though it turns my stomach, I know that this is the only way we can move forward; to have that cancerous stuff exposed fully so that it can be dealt with. Our progress as a nation is predicated on authentic dialogue, no matter how brutal and disheartening that dialogue is.

In other words, you’ve let us know what we’re really dealing with here and while it’s been rightly disturbing, it’s also been revelatory. That’s the thing about that kind of harsh light: you’re forced to see everything. Beauty and monstrosity equally illuminated.

Now don’t get me wrong, I think you’re the least qualified, least knowledgeable Presidential candidate we may ever have had participate this far into the process, and if you somehow were elected I’d fear gravely for the world my children would inherit—should it survive your Presidency at all. I believe you’re reckless, bitter, and completely reprehensible; the very worst kind of bully.

But whether you win or lose, you’ve already allowed me the blessing of Truth; about me, about you, about other candidates, about our nation.

And in the process you’ve also shown me that I am not alone in resisting you and this ugly thing you’ve revealed about us.

You’ve generated an equally loud, equally passionate response to it and this is where I find my hope these days.

I find it in those for whom equality isn’t just a cheap buzzword, it’s the most precious of hills to die on.

I find it in those people who refuse to be silent in the face of our impending shared regression.

I find it in those willing to be bolder in defending the inherent value of all people.

I find it in the growing army of those who will not tolerate hatred as a core American value.

I find it in those who reject violence as our default response to dissension.

I find it in the ever rising voice of people who will not let malice and bitterness represent them in the world.

Today I find my hope in those who, like me, will not be complicit in allowing bigotry and intolerance to become a source of national pride, because we’ve seen where that leads.

Yes, Mr Trump, you’ve unearthed our hidden sickness and you’ve allowed it to go viral.
You brought every awful thing about us out into the open.

[Naga_Fireball]

It's well written and has seeds of truth,
but for instance if it came to light that hypothetically, Donald Trump is disabled like Michael Crichton was, socially inept yet monetarily successful, scientifically sensible; otherwise sane, would it change the way one sees him?

I hope that other supporters and opponents of Trump are able to communicate with his administration effectively somehow, and that he learns how to listen without being overcome by anger.

Also, I hope people see how the media is sort of fixating on certain issues while ignoring other news, things that might have affected public perception.

Apparently George Soros is one of the people financing some of the negative press.

I realize my support for him was a bit blind during the election, but I am hanging on hoping that the waves get smaller! !

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